Low battery icon for old Pentax Optio E60

Hunsta
Posted 16/10/2022 - 07:54 Link
Gday all. Have a question about an old Pentax Optio E60. Yes I know its probably considered ancient. But it is what it is. I picked it up very cheap ($10), as I was looking for a point and shoot that still takes AA batteries. Something that just doesnt exist anymore. Reason for that is I dont have access to power where I go and its easier to carry some AA`s. And solar recharging gear just takes up room. Had a Nikon Coolpix which was great for this. But it died. Anyway I digress.
Im getting a low battery icon come up after only a few shots. (this is why Im assuming it got ditched) With fresh batteries in it. Now I know a lot of these little point and shoots, can have these problems. This and jammed lenses being the most popular. But also they have their fixes. However it seems for the life of me. I cant find one anywhere. It seems to be in very good condition. With no signs of corrosion, at all.
So question is. Is there a fix for this? Ive had a look at the terminals and they look fine and protrude well. And battery door closes nicely and snug.
Any help would be gladly appreciated.
Cheers
Craig
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Aitch53
Posted 16/10/2022 - 07:59 Link
What sort of batteries are you using? My 33LF eats standard zinc/carbon batteries at an alarming rate. Alkalines last a bit longer. Not tried lithiums - too expensive.

Re-chargables seem to last a lot longer too.
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Lubbyman
Posted 16/10/2022 - 08:57 - Helpful Comment Link
Just a thought - does a low or zero battery icon actually stop it taking shots? If battery monitoring is faulty but is only for informing the user, you should be able to keep shooting until the batteries really die. Just carry some spares because you won't know when they will die. I once got scary low oil pressure warnings in a car while a long way from home, drove home slowly and carefully, took it to be fixed and it turned out to be a faulty old pressure sensor - I could have ignored it and carried on driving as normal.

For what it's worth, the user manual is available from the Ricoh (Japan) website. It specifies alkaline, lithium, Ni-MH or nickel manganese batteries. It also says:
"If the batteries have been removed from the camera for a long time, when they are reinserted and the camera is turned on, the message [Battery depleted] may appear. This can also happen when using the camera for the first time; however this is not a malfunction. Turn the camera off, wait a minute and then turn the camera on again to reset the camera. The date and time may also be reset."
This sounds like there is a capacitor which needs charging.

Steve
Hunsta
Posted 16/10/2022 - 09:59 Link
Lubbyman wrote:
also says:
"If the batteries have been removed from the camera for a long time, when they are reinserted and the camera is turned on, the message [Battery depleted] may appear. This can also happen when using the camera for the first time; however this is not a malfunction. Turn the camera off, wait a minute and then turn the camera on again to reset the camera. The date and time may also be reset."
This sounds like there is a capacitor which needs charging.

Steve
Batteries were new Energizer Lithiums. Lasted roughly 6 shots, before first battery bar dropped. Does seem to do it the minute you use the replay button for pictures. Came back on to full when turned off then on again. But stayed down to 1 bar gone after 5 sec`s of video. Had a Canon Powershot that did the same many years ago. Found a video that had a fix. By resetting a few settings. Then it was golden. Camera came with all the instruction and all the CD`s. Even all the cables. Was quite surprised it had everything.
Although you could be right about it being just a faulty display. I`ll take it out and see if I can flatten the batteries.
Lubbyman
Posted 16/10/2022 - 10:52 - Helpful Comment Link
I've got cameras that can run for a long time with only one or even zero bars in the battery monitor. Probably due to how the battery voltage changes during use. If it drops quickly then stabilises, there can still be a lot of life in the battery but the monitor thinks there isn't. And the voltage characteristics can vary with brand of battery as well as the type of battery.

I've also got two camera traps for wildlife monitoring. Same brand, same product line, one about 3 years and a couple of versions younger than the other. The older one says it doesn't take rechargeables, the newer one says it does take rechargeables. But in fact both will run on rechargeables and give about the same useage. The big difference is that with freshly charged batteries the older one's battery monitor says about 60% charge, the newer one says 100%. I suspect it's just the battery monitor that has changed to reflect the voltage characteristics of rechargeables.

Enjoy trying to flatten the batteries - and you're welcome to post some pictures on this forum.

Steve
Pwynnej
Posted 17/10/2022 - 11:36 Link
I would investigate rechargable batteries, most powerful ones you can get (~2500).

I always found they had longer staying power than alkalines, but I am suprised the lithiums were rubbish.


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Posted 17/10/2022 - 19:49 Link
Sanyo eneloops are very good and some say the IKEA versions are made by Sanyo, I've no proof however but would recommend the originals.

They keep their charge really well, even after 6 months of storage.
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