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Lost photos downloaded

Brian1
Posted 07/09/2010 - 17:16 Link
I recently very stupidly wiped a whole load of shots from my computer after I had downloaded them from my Pentax K7 via a card reader and had gone through the formatting of the card in the camera.

I have a recovery programme on my computer which not only recovered the "lost" shots, but also those taken a year or so ago when I used the same card back then (I have quite a number of cards I swap around on a regular basis).

If I had already downloaded the shots from the card and then formatted the card in the camera how could a recovery rogramme recover such so-called erased shots ? Are they in fact in a separate section of the card "for ever" ?

Can anyone let me in on the secret ??
davex
Posted 07/09/2010 - 17:20 Link
Normally files are not "deleted" on any media. When you "delete" the file you are simply telling the drive or card that it can overwrite that particular storage segment. If the segment is not overwritten the recovery software can still read the data. You was lucky.

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thoughton
Posted 07/09/2010 - 17:22 Link
When a computer erases a hard disk or memory card it usually only erases the 'directory' which tells the computer where each file is located. Only a 'full format' (as opposed to a 'quick erase' or something similar) will wipe the data itself.

Your shots from a year ago were probably on a part of the card you haven't used since then. If you had completely filled up the card some time this past year then you wouldn't have been able to recover the year-old shots as the space they occupied would have been overwritten by newer images.
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davex
Posted 07/09/2010 - 17:30 Link
Quote:
Only a 'full format' (as opposed to a 'quick erase' or something similar) will wipe the data itself

Not actually true Tim, a full format removes the directory entries and also scans for bad sectors, which are noted in the directory. The data is only erased when one deliberately writes other data into a particular sector, this is what "wiping" software does.

Davex.
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davex
Posted 07/09/2010 - 17:33 Link
If anyone is really interested this is a good explanation.

Davex.
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Brian1
Posted 08/09/2010 - 10:09 Link
davex wrote:
If anyone is really interested this is a good explanation.

Davex.

Very interesting. I now understand what happens.

Thank you one and all for the input. It is clear that if photos are accidentally wiped then recovery should be made before the card is used again, as the re-use will overwrite what was there before.

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