Lightroom 4 purchase - advice please


Smeggypants

Link Posted 29/04/2014 - 21:40
Big mistake if Adobe make Lightroom ensalvement rental
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
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johnriley

Link Posted 29/04/2014 - 21:56
No doubt it will soothe you Smeggypants....
Best regards, John

Smeggypants

Link Posted 29/04/2014 - 22:55
yup like treading on a lego brick barefoot
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

LennyBloke

Link Posted 30/04/2014 - 07:47
Thanks for the comments guys

I shoot Raw(DNG) & Jpeg so that should fit, I couldn't find a free trial (presumably because it's not the latest version), nobody seems to be shouting "Get V5.n, because it's got a better multi-spectronebulisation processor " and it appears to be simpler (and more intuitive?) than the package I currently use!

So I'll take the plunge today
LennyBloke

cabstar

Link Posted 30/04/2014 - 13:16
I think version 5 has better brush tools than version 4 and improved noise reduction engine which adds graining effect over version 4.

Smeggypants wrote:
Big mistake if Adobe make Lightroom ensalvement rental

Having gone the subscription route I am pleased with the iPad integration. I need to edit around 600 shots on a sunday, being able to do this sat on the sofa with the iPad is literally a dream come true for me, no more being slave to the desk on a Sunday. The fact I also get photoshop cc thrown in is an added bonus as I stopped using it a whilst a go, but I still occasionally need to use the content aware tool so I still get to use this feature too.

I agree subscription isn't for everyone but at £2.20 a week its a small price to pay I feel and far better than paying £100s in one go for the latest versions...
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dangie

Link Posted 30/04/2014 - 20:43
cabstar wrote:
Hmm does Lightroom 4 support k-5 mkiis? I would check that first my memory is a little hazy.

Just set the K-5 RAW format to DNG and all will be fine.
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 30/04/2014 - 22:15
cabstar wrote:
I think version 5 has better brush tools than version 4 and improved noise reduction engine which adds graining effect over version 4.

hadn't heard about the changes to NR, but the extra brush features didnt' warrante me upgrading

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Smeggypants wrote:
Big mistake if Adobe make Lightroom ensalvement rental

Having gone the subscription route I am pleased with the iPad integration. I need to edit around 600 shots on a sunday, being able to do this sat on the sofa with the iPad is literally a dream come true for me, no more being slave to the desk on a Sunday. The fact I also get photoshop cc thrown in is an added bonus as I stopped using it a whilst a go, but I still occasionally need to use the content aware tool so I still get to use this feature too.

I agree subscription isn't for everyone but at £2.20 a week its a small price to pay I feel and far better than paying £100s in one go for the latest versions...

Well the non-enslavement version of Lightroom is great value for money and won't stop working if you stop paying, adobe goes out of business, gets it's servers hacked again, etc,etc

But yes renting software isn't for everyone.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

cabstar

Link Posted 01/05/2014 - 08:54
If Adobe goes out of business I am sure there will be lots of downloads floating around the net and retail versions in online stores.
PPG Wedding photography Flickr
Concert photography

Currently on a Pentax hiatus until an FF Pentax is released

jeallen01

Link Posted 07/05/2014 - 19:30
cabstar wrote:
If Adobe goes out of business I am sure there will be lots of downloads floating around the net and retail versions in online stores.

FWIW Morgan Computers are offering full boxed LR5 for£59.95 at the moment (should have waited as I paid a lot more for the downloaded version)
K-3 II, K-3 and a K-70 from SRS (having now relegated the K-30 /"K-50" to a backup body), & some Sigma and Pentax lenses (and a lot of old 35mm gear!)

CMW

Link Posted 07/05/2014 - 21:05
FWIW, LR6 is presumably pretty close now (at least the beta version). Be interesting to see what's in it, how it'll be offered (for sale and subscription, as now?), and what the cost will be.
Regards, Christopher

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Smeggypants

Link Posted 08/05/2014 - 01:46
CMW wrote:
FWIW, LR6 is presumably pretty close now (at least the beta version). Be interesting to see what's in it, how it'll be offered (for sale and subscription, as now?), and what the cost will be.

I was only thinking about this earlier. I'm actually really happy with LR4 and can't think of much else I'd want from it except maybe better keywording features and relative develop parameter tweaking when editing multiple pics.

I can't see it goign subscription only because of Lightroom's general demographic.

What I can see is it being split into Lightroom Pro ( subscription ) and Lightroom Hobby (non subscription )
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

OldTaffy

Link Posted 08/05/2014 - 18:13
Like Lennybloke, I too used to use Paint Shop Pro. It is great for a lot of graphics, but limited for processing digital photos. My version also strips out the exif data.

Being a cheapskate, I bought a 'remaindered' early version of Photoshop Elements (v.7) and find that it meets all my normal needs. Even after 2 years I am still learning new things to do with it.

One snag with PSE7: when finding out requirements set by some on-line colour photo printing firms, I found that at least one (ProAm Imaging) expect the customer to have the files fully ready in their required format. This includes a final save through a Fuji_DP2 profile.

One cannot do that from Photoshop Elements (the full Photoshop CS is needed). But apparently Lightroom can set the file up via Fuji_DS2 to suit the ProAm printers. So one up to Lightroom?

Martin
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Lizars 1910 "Challenge" quarter-plate camera; and some more recent stuff.

Smeggypants

Link Posted 08/05/2014 - 23:09
Editing is only half of lightroom's value though. it's cataloguing facility is excellent
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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