Late Summer Flowers


McGregNi

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 16:00
A lovely sunny Sept morning saw me take a chance to grab some flower shots in the nearby Wettern Tree Garden in Purley. High contrast caused me to use off camera flash in a softbox for nice light across the flowers, with camera exposure settings reducing the natural light.

I used P-TTL automatic flash mode, plus High Speed Sync when the sun was very bright. Where possible I mixed the natural and flash light (eg some sun backlight in No6). There was a 1/4 CTO (orange) gel on the flash head….. here's an example of the arrangement ….




The roses were taken with the D FA28-105mm, and the others with the Tamron AF70-300 Di LD on its macro setting.


Pentax K7 / Cactus V6II transmitter/ Cactus RF60x flash / Camera M mode / Flash TTL mode …… ISO 100-400 / F5.6-11/ 1/180th-1/750th

1




2




3




4




5




6




7




8



I hope you enjoy this little taster of the Wettern Tree Garden!
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 17/09/2018 - 16:07

RobL

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 16:16
Those are excellent, Nigel. Would it have been easier to use a reflector?

Chrism8

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 16:19
Nicely shot Nigel, #4 is superb.

Chris
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

-------------------------------------------------------------
K1 - Pentax 100 Macro F2.8 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6

Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

McGregNi

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 16:51
RobL wrote:
Those are excellent, Nigel. Would it have been easier to use a reflector?

Thanks Rob.... The P-TTL automatic flash makes it nice and easy to get the light balanced, very quick really. I'm not sure that a reflector would make it "easier" .... Would it make the photos look any better or worse....?

Thanks also Chris!
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

pschlute

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 17:14
Nicely done Nigel, I really like the first
Peter



My Flickr page

Dorset_Mike

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 17:20
Until reading your posts, Nigel, it wouldn't have occurred to me to take a flash and softbox to a garden shoot. I have to say that you have produced some beautifully lit images here. I will have to widen my horizons!
Regards,
Mike

Every day's a holiday!

MrB

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 18:40
McGregNi wrote:

I hope you enjoy this little taster of the Wettern Tree Garden!

Very much so, Nigel - all of them. Thank you.

Philip

thingsthatihaveseen

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 20:31
Very nice Nigel... really like 4, both for the hairy bits (technical term), and also the sense of unflowered potential...

Best
Bill

BillWardPhotography
Instagram
Facebook

McGregNi

Link Posted 17/09/2018 - 23:23
pschlute wrote:
Nicely done Nigel, I really like the first

Thanks Peter

Dorset_Mike wrote:
Until reading your posts, Nigel, it wouldn't have occurred to me to take a flash and softbox to a garden shoot. I have to say that you have produced some beautifully lit images here. I will have to widen my horizons!

Its actually great fun Mike, well worth the effort! I didn't have far to carry the softbox anyway, which was already made up ready to go. The car was just outside on the road, and my gear was all in the backpack which doubled as a cushion for the flash and to support the softbox. I didn't bother with a light stand as the flowers were all low down. If needing to walk further then the softbox folds flat for carrying and its very light.

I'd say that the extra control over the natural light, and the subtle balancing of natural and flash light that becomes possible, makes this an ideal solution to garden photography. You can of course pick where to place the softbox in order to bring light into shadowed areas of the flowers and to create a strong sidelit effect, which creates nice 'modelling' across the flower. Unfortunately natural sunlight so often does not provide this, and if its harsh then the high contrast created can render flower photography fairly pointless.

Using the High Speed Sync technique to knock down the natural light significantly while still illuminating the flower with the 'softer' directional flash light seems to work well, and I must say is great fun to do in practice. Having automatic P-TTL control just makes it all the more quick and efficient.

Thanks also Philip and Bill .... Bill, I find I really like to photograph the buds, they make great subjects in their own right, even the hairy ones!
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

stub

Link Posted 18/09/2018 - 09:54
Well done Nigel good set... I too prefer the one that actually isnt in bloom as my favourite.. but that shouldnt distract from the rest.. Using light is great fun and adds another dimension to the creativity that can be applied to images by the photographer. Still not convinced on the P-TTL front, (Just guess we will always have a difference...lol) though do accept its marginally speedier to use. If I could ask a quick question.. Why the choice of HSS over a single flash.. ? I cant imagine the sun was so powerful you couldnt get the shutter speed low enough.
K-1Gripped K-1 ungripped K-5ii K7 Various lenses

Stuart..

McGregNi

Link Posted 18/09/2018 - 15:27
Still not yet convinced on Radio P-TTL ? Well, I'm still working on you.....I reckon we'll have some Cactus or Godox gear in your shopping basket before long Stuart!

I see a strong practical case for TTL flash control, especially when outside and mixing flash with natural light. Here it is very efficient to think mentally in terms of "stops" for both ambient and flash exposures. So I might think I'll keep ambient at -1.0 or -1.5 stops below meter, but then place the flash value at -0.5 ..... This makes the ratio and mix I'm looking for, and it's easy to relate the two as they are thought of in the same units...... Rather than the flash setting being a power figure (eg 1/8th or 1/32) that bears no obvious relationship to the camera settings.... In fact no relationship to anything really

Regarding the HSS, take my 3rd shot here .... The light got very bright and glaring, and I was already using ISO100 and F11 ....I needed another 2 stops of light reduction to get the white blown out highlights down.... So I moved the shutter speed to 1/750th. The HSS mode kicks in automatically allowing me to keep using the flash to provide the nice soft directional light, and the exposure is kept under control, retaining the textures and colours of the flowers.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

Chrism8

Link Posted 18/09/2018 - 15:41
McGregNi wrote:
Still not yet convinced on Radio P-TTL ? Well, I'm still working on you.....I reckon we'll have some Cactus or Godox gear in your shopping basket before long Stuart!

Regarding the HSS, take my 3rd shot here .... The light got very bright and glaring, and I was already using ISO100 and F11 ....I needed another 2 stops of light reduction to get the white blown out highlights down.... So I moved the shutter speed to 1/750th. The HSS mode kicks in automatically allowing me to keep using the flash to provide the nice soft directional light, and the exposure is kept under control, retaining the textures and colours of the flowers.

A useful technique I've also used for portraits against a bright background when the subject would be in shadow / shade
Chris

www.chrismillsphotography.co.uk

" A Hangover is something that occupies the Head you neglected to use the night before".

-------------------------------------------------------------
K1 - Pentax 100 Macro F2.8 - Sigma 85mm F1.4, Pentax 150 -450 F4.5 / 5.6

Pentax FA 24 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 100-300 F4, Samyang 14mm F2.8, Sigma 70-200 F2.8,

K5iis - Sigma 17 - 70 F2.8, Sigma 70 - 300 F3.5/F5.6, Sigma 18 - 200 F3.6 / F4.5.

stub

Link Posted 18/09/2018 - 16:34
Yep agreed on the HSS front.. Just never knew our days got that sunny. lol Northern cheapskakes like me with a manual flash have to screw on an ND filter....lol

Godox just announced a Pentax trigger so you never know..!! Still think PTTL flash compensation setting. When using more than one flash or setting your ratio against the sun. Is the same as setting a manual flash. Just considerably more expensive,,,,

But sorry I'm digressing from your very interesting post....
K-1Gripped K-1 ungripped K-5ii K7 Various lenses

Stuart..

McGregNi

Link Posted 18/09/2018 - 18:41
Not at all, keep it coming! From my point of view, I'm seeing Radio P-TTL as not an expense at all ....I already had the gear which provided Manual HSS. The P-TTL came courtesy of free firmware from Cactus....a really nice treat and bonus from them, thanks Cactus!
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 18/09/2018 - 18:48

McGregNi

Link Posted 18/09/2018 - 20:39
Here's one more, hot off the press! Same shoot, same settings etc …..




My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Add a Comment
You must be registered or logged-in to comment.