K5 makes a sound that does not sound good
Posted 21/06/2012 - 09:28
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To be fair to Pentax, the statement about the SR system is in the beginning of the actual User Manual (the first few pages of the book being the usual health & safety stuff and the list of contents), in the section entitled "Before Using Your Camera"!
However, I do agree that it would be helpful to have that notice clearly displayed on or in the camera box. Pentax should also instruct the vendors, so that they can inform potential customers of the sensor movement. When I was comparing cameras in a store of one national retail chain, I asked what the movement was inside the Pentax and no-one had a clue.
Philip
However, I do agree that it would be helpful to have that notice clearly displayed on or in the camera box. Pentax should also instruct the vendors, so that they can inform potential customers of the sensor movement. When I was comparing cameras in a store of one national retail chain, I asked what the movement was inside the Pentax and no-one had a clue.
Philip
Posted 21/06/2012 - 09:31
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MrB wrote:
To be fair to Pentax, the statement about the SR system is in the beginning of the actual User Manual (the first few pages of the book being the usual health & safety stuff and the list of contents), in the section entitled "Before Using Your Camera"!
However, I do agree that it would be helpful to have that notice clearly displayed on or in the camera box. Pentax should also instruct the vendors, so that they can inform potential customers of the sensor movement. When I was comparing cameras in a store of one national retail chain, I asked what the movement was inside the Pentax and no-one had a clue.
Philip
Same here - even in good camera shops you often find staff that can only repeat price and technical facts (information, which is displayed anyway).
To be fair to Pentax, the statement about the SR system is in the beginning of the actual User Manual (the first few pages of the book being the usual health & safety stuff and the list of contents), in the section entitled "Before Using Your Camera"!
However, I do agree that it would be helpful to have that notice clearly displayed on or in the camera box. Pentax should also instruct the vendors, so that they can inform potential customers of the sensor movement. When I was comparing cameras in a store of one national retail chain, I asked what the movement was inside the Pentax and no-one had a clue.
Philip
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Posted 21/06/2012 - 10:31
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I am in sunny Singapore and my K5 came with zero shutter count too. And yes, when you move the camera from side to side, there is a feeling of the sensor moving inside. It is very normal.
Cheers..... Enjoy your new toy and take more photos with it.
Cheers..... Enjoy your new toy and take more photos with it.
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Posted 21/06/2012 - 17:43
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AxelLuther wrote:
Hi all - thanks for the valid information - this convinced me at least, that I do not have a damaged camera - but it still leaves a slight nervous feeling. Having such a heavy "thing" sliding around in such a delicate device like a semi-pro DSLR simply feels bad - Some of you said, that you have done thousands of pictures but I really wonder, how sustainable such a solution is (moving parts typically perish after a certain amount of time - and it feels like it is really a heavy part sliding around). One of the reasons why I decided to stay with Pentax is the fact, that the cameras are really solid - rain-sealed and metal body - perfect for my outdoor activities - let's see how this sliding sensor behaves in 3-4 years.
I think you're worrying far too unnecessarily. It's just an assembly that slides in a holding assembly. There's no reason why this should fail any quicker than the shutter, the shutter button, and all the other buttons and levers on the camera.Hi all - thanks for the valid information - this convinced me at least, that I do not have a damaged camera - but it still leaves a slight nervous feeling. Having such a heavy "thing" sliding around in such a delicate device like a semi-pro DSLR simply feels bad - Some of you said, that you have done thousands of pictures but I really wonder, how sustainable such a solution is (moving parts typically perish after a certain amount of time - and it feels like it is really a heavy part sliding around). One of the reasons why I decided to stay with Pentax is the fact, that the cameras are really solid - rain-sealed and metal body - perfect for my outdoor activities - let's see how this sliding sensor behaves in 3-4 years.
In fact if anything it's mechanically more simple than these other parts, and a squillion times more simple than the construction of any of your lenses.
Purely a psychological logical fallacy. i.e "It makes a noise so it must be more fragile"
Enjoy your cam and snap away
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Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 22/06/2012 - 06:04
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The PENTAX-developed SR (Shake Reduction) mechanism..
I agree with smeggypants.. Don't concern yourself with it.
The shutter/mirror ass'y is much more likely to fail before this simple mechanism.
I agree with smeggypants.. Don't concern yourself with it.
The shutter/mirror ass'y is much more likely to fail before this simple mechanism.
Posted 22/06/2012 - 17:53
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[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 22/06/2012 - 18:09
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sledger wrote:
The PENTAX-developed SR (Shake Reduction) mechanism..
I agree with smeggypants.. Don't concern yourself with it.
The shutter/mirror ass'y is much more likely to fail before this simple mechanism.
A device holding a 16.6 Megapixel sensor and move it in realtime to compensate the shakes of the photographer with 4 electro magnets .... if you find this simple I guess you are currently building a cold nuclear fusion reactor in your garage .... All your answers convinced me, that my K5 is fine - and first test shots as well - as I mentioned above - it was really just this unexpted sound and feelable movement that concerned me - now I know - my camera has moving parts where I didn't expect them - new experience The PENTAX-developed SR (Shake Reduction) mechanism..
I agree with smeggypants.. Don't concern yourself with it.
The shutter/mirror ass'y is much more likely to fail before this simple mechanism.
Btw - my buddy just bought the same equipment and I gave him a little warning upfront
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Posted 22/06/2012 - 18:13
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There was also a disussion on this very subject a short while ago, see :-
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/something-inside-sliding-when-tipping-the...
The movement just confirms that your camera is alive and has soul.
regards
Bernard
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/something-inside-sliding-when-tipping-the...
The movement just confirms that your camera is alive and has soul.
regards
Bernard
Posted 23/06/2012 - 00:09
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AxelLuther wrote:
A device holding a 16.6 Megapixel sensor and move it in realtime to compensate the shakes of the photographer with 4 electro magnets .... if you find this simple I guess you are currently building a cold nuclear fusion reactor in your garage ....
Funny you should say that ***inserts another uranium rod***A device holding a 16.6 Megapixel sensor and move it in realtime to compensate the shakes of the photographer with 4 electro magnets .... if you find this simple I guess you are currently building a cold nuclear fusion reactor in your garage ....
Yes, electronically it's not simple at all. But mechanically it's very simple.
btw - for fun you can see the SR in action by selecting live view and lightly shaking the camera up and down. Try the same with the SR disabled and you'll soon see the difference. Works a treat
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 01/03/2013 - 13:23
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Hi Gents,
A question. If I turn off the SR, is it that there should be no noise at all?.
Cheers
A question. If I turn off the SR, is it that there should be no noise at all?.
Cheers
Posted 01/03/2013 - 15:03
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SkilakDeZoo wrote:
Hi Gents,
A question. If I turn off the SR, is it that there should be no noise at all?.
Cheers
As far as I know, the sensor is not 'locked' when SR is off, so you will still hear the noise of the sensor moving if you rock the camera from side to side.
Hi Gents,
A question. If I turn off the SR, is it that there should be no noise at all?.
Cheers
Posted 02/03/2013 - 19:17
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The warning notice is a good idea to set the owners mind at ease
Canon did a similar thing with their 40D, note in the manual that mentioned the pop up flash having a rattle on the linkage
Remember my K200D having a right old clunk when tipped, fortunately it was my second Pentax with SR so wasn't a worry
Canon did a similar thing with their 40D, note in the manual that mentioned the pop up flash having a rattle on the linkage
Remember my K200D having a right old clunk when tipped, fortunately it was my second Pentax with SR so wasn't a worry
Posted 02/03/2013 - 22:25
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I think I would have found any problem with the sensor shift movement by now, if the noise you are worried about was any problem. Both my K10 and K5 do it.
Just back from another week in Scotland, wandering around in the mountains. The camera is usually in a holster attached to my rucksack hip belt and happily moves with every step. I've had the K5 for 18 months and it gets regular exercise this way, as did the K10 for 3-4 years.
Both are still fine, you don't need to worry.
Just back from another week in Scotland, wandering around in the mountains. The camera is usually in a holster attached to my rucksack hip belt and happily moves with every step. I've had the K5 for 18 months and it gets regular exercise this way, as did the K10 for 3-4 years.
Both are still fine, you don't need to worry.
Bob
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Like Mike mine didn't have protective film either.
What is the shutter count? That should give some indication of whether it is new or not. It won't be zero but should be low.
Where did you buy the camera?
I can't say I have ever noticed the shake reduction making a noise but others have.
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