K10d Operational problem?

DaveG14
Posted 12/03/2015 - 20:39 Link
Hello all, I'm hoping you good people can help me; I have this K10d which takes good imges, my problem is, that when I raise the built in flash it seems to deactivate the "half press" functions and auto focus (and just about everything else) and no matter what setting I have the camera dial set to, I cannot get the flash to. .... Flash! Have i missed something? Or is it something worse? can you possibly help? Please ask any questions as I'm rapidly losing faith,

Regards, Dave.
Edited by DaveG14: 12/03/2015 - 20:41
McGregNi
Posted 12/03/2015 - 20:43 - Helpful Comment Link
Make sure the battery is fully charged firstly. If there's a power issue then the flash charging could wipe out any power for anything else....

And just to confirm ,... are you saying that everything works OK when the flash is not raised?
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Edited by McGregNi: 12/03/2015 - 20:45
stu62
Posted 12/03/2015 - 20:45 Link
i never had that problem with my k10

but if you go into the menu u should be able to reset to factory settings
i would try that first and go from there

regards stu
ps do you have a manual
DaveG14
Posted 12/03/2015 - 20:49 Link
McGregNi wrote:
Make sure the battery is fully charged firstly. If there's a power issue then the flash charging could wipe out any power for anything else....

And just to confirm ,... are you saying that everything works OK when the flash is not raised?
Sorry, I'm new to this. ... but yes, battery fully charged, and all works fine until the flash is raised. ...... Thanks
Edited by DaveG14: 12/03/2015 - 20:57
DaveG14
Posted 12/03/2015 - 21:21 Link
stu62 wrote:
i never had that problem with my k10

but if you go into the menu u should be able to reset to factory settings
i would try that first and go from there

regards stu
ps do you have a manual
Hi thanks for this. ... yes I do have the manual, but is there a quick way to do the reset?
McGregNi
Posted 12/03/2015 - 21:39 Link
Its a tricky one .... I don't know any setting that would deliberately stop focussing and metering ('half press functions') simply because the flash is raised.

What flash mode are you using ? Try using different flash modes ....

And could you list all the things that are not working in this situation.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Edited by McGregNi: 12/03/2015 - 21:39
stu62
Posted 12/03/2015 - 21:53 Link
in the manual on page 201 it tells you how to reset

and it takes seconds to do
is there any error message coming up


regards stu
DaveG14
Posted 12/03/2015 - 23:31 Link
I'm sorry folks, I'm not ignoring you but I've got some stuff I have to do. I will go through your suggestions/advice as soon as possible, and give an update then. I really want to try and sort this out, so many thanks to you all!
Regards
Dave
DaveG14
Posted 13/03/2015 - 18:20 Link
Thanks again folks, for your suggestions/advice, here is my current "status";

I should say at this stage (and you'll probably say it serves me right!), that I bought this camera on ebay.................I know, I know, but I thought at just over a ton, it was a decent upgrade to my K100d, which I love.

Anyway, I digress;

So, as per the advice I have reinstalled the firmware; it was 1.30, now it's 1.31..........nothing has changed; so when I pop the on board flash up the camera will not focus, or, it seems, do anything else. As soon as I close the flash, bingo, fine and dandy, everything appears to do exactly what it should do..........through all the different "programs" Av, Tv, M etc etc.

I have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and if I put that onto the hotshoe, and set to X program it's working and triggers fine (though I have to manually set the aperture, which I think is....normal?). If I use the flash on any other program than X, it seems to have a fixed shutter speed of 1/60th and everything is overexposed..........but I think I just need to read the manual!!

And thats where, once again, I'd like to thank everyone for taking the time and trouble to help a poor old fella....in his time of need!! Thank you............Once I progress things via the manual with the 330FTZ, I'll let you know. Unless anyone can think of anything else? Someone suggested it could be an "inadequate" battery, so I have ordered a new one to eliminate this possibility....other than that, I might just have to accept I bought a bit of a pup..................albeit one that still wags it's tail, but has a little less "spark" than it should;

Thanks again, Dave.
DarkM
Posted 17/03/2015 - 09:44 Link
My guess:

There's a custom function that says "release whilst flash charging" or something similar (don't have the camera to hand right now) and it's set to "No". This means the shutter won't fire until the flash is fully charged.
The flash may be faulty (if I've read corrrectly you've never got the onboard flash to fire?), so never reports as being charged to the camera.

On second thoughts, I think there may also be a setting to set the flash as a wireless trigger or somesuch, might be worth playing with that also to see if the onboard flash can be got to work?
MattMatic
Posted 17/03/2015 - 10:22 - Helpful Comment Link
The custom function on the K10D is called "Release when Chrging" - on custom page 5/6. The default is "1" = Off (Disables shutter release while the built in flash is charging)

Perhaps the flash charge circuit isn't working, and the camera is waiting for it to charge before allowing operation (i.e. never). Unfortunately it's not economically viable to repair

Additionally, the AF330FTZ is not P-TTL compatible (it only has the older film-body TTL flash mode). You'll only be able to use it in fully manual mode (and it only has full power + 16th power settings). It lacks even the "A" mode flash setting, so it's not that useful with the dSLR bodies

Matt
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DaveG14
Posted 27/03/2015 - 18:00 Link
Okay, final note;

I have returned the camera and received a full refund; there were other, none technical issues with the camera, and when I did get to compare image quality, with that of my K100d, there was a marked lack of "sharpness" to the K10 images. That despite gradually "maxing" the in camera setting.

Anyway, what with that, and the other bits and pieces, I called time.

Many thanks to all those who helped and advised, but for me, and my upgrade....the search continues!

Regards, Dave.
George Lazarette
Posted 27/03/2015 - 18:20 - Helpful Comment Link
DaveG14 wrote:
Okay, final note;

I have returned the camera and received a full refund; there were other, none technical issues with the camera, and when I did get to compare image quality, with that of my K100d, there was a marked lack of "sharpness" to the K10 images. That despite gradually "maxing" the in camera setting.

Anyway, what with that, and the other bits and pieces, I called time.

Many thanks to all those who helped and advised, but for me, and my upgrade....the search continues!

Regards, Dave.
Don't let one bad experience put you off Ebay - most transactions are fine. And you got your money back, so all you have lost is a bit of time.

When I buy something expensive on Ebay I like to check the buyer out first. And if possible, I like to collect and pay cash. That gives you a chance to try the thing out befote parting with the hard-earned.

Good luck with the search.

G
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McGregNi
Posted 27/03/2015 - 18:33 Link
You're most welcome, pity you couldn't get it going, it was a tricky one!

There's some great prices on used Pentax cameras around, I'm sure you'll find an excellent model and a bargain. Let us know what you end up with.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
DaveG14
Posted 28/03/2015 - 12:38 Link
Don't let one bad experience put you off Ebay - most transactions are fine.

Hiya, absolutely right, I certainly didn't intend to "dis" ebay; they were brilliant about it; I will definitely continue to use ebay, for sure; I have bought and sold quite a lot on there and never had any need to pursue a refund, until now, and ebay resolved it immediately.....and I also agree with your comment on checking out the seller, which I always do; and in this case I think they genuinely didn't realise the issues, and didn't intend to mislead. I certainly won't be leaving bad feedback for them.

So all in all one to put down to bad luck more than anything.

And thanks for the comment,

PS: Nigel...I will, thanks.

Regards, Dave.

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