K-r front focusing "relevance" poll

I posted this poll in another forum and thought I would get feedback here as well.

Trying to get a sense of what kind of shooters are out there. I rarely use my camera indoors and so even if I had a front focusing issue on my K-r (assuming it was confined to indoor light) it would not be a factor in my satisfaction whatsoever.

To clarify, this poll can also apply to those users who either don't have the problem (or don't know) actually in the camera.......or to those who don't have a problem because they usually or always shoot outdoors (shooting outdoors at night in an urban environment notwithstanding). I wanted to isolate this part of the question already answered in an earlier poll about whether you had a camera that did front focus. Please feel free to add anything relevant to the discussion because I know the short answers in the poll do not provide enough latitude for explanation.

Perhaps one more additional question as a caveat might be whether your K-r front focuses even outdoors?

mine does not appear to be afflicted.

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Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.

The question is presuming there's a problem by stating "does the problem affect you?" whereas I found no problem when I tested the K-r. It focused exactly where it should. I'm sure others will comment in due course.

John, yes....the question is presuming. Since the question is pertaining to the ff focus issue (legitimate, perceived, or otherwise) and since there is no way to corroborate various anecdotal accounts of the relative extent of the issue, for the sake of this poll it is assumed that there is a problem to whatever degree by THOSE users.

The question can also apply to those who don't actually have the problem physically on their camera. It was not meant to preclude any users. If you don't have a problem at all then you can just vote "never". But the idea is to suggest that even if you did, would it affect your shooting based on your predominant tendencies?

Please excuse any confusion. That's why I suggested further commentary to explain the reasoning for their choice. We could also do a separate "do you have a problem with your K-r with front focusing?" poll, but by having the "never" answer option it allows for those who don't to answer in this poll.

Actually mine is affected outdoors too. IMO its not just tungsten light that troubles it.

I love my KR and I keep posting photos (in the Portfolio on here)taken with it since I bought it before my mid May trip to Greece.

My 55 to 300mm DA ED lens hunts sometimes requiring use of the quick focus ring but that's that lens for you.

I believe the autofocus to be vastly superior to that on the KX I had before AND oyu can see the focus points now.

No doubt some people have problems with cameras from time to time but I do wish that on all forums photographers would stick to what actually happens with their cameras rather than some third hand notion that there's a problem.

Much more fun to talk about what is brilliant and achievable with this bargain kit! Low light quality at high ISO, 6 frames second, fantastic ergonomics, superb LCD visible from low angles (don't need a tilting one), great options for exposure and focus, RAW before during or after. How clever is that buffer to allow you to save a RAW after you've taken a pic! The list goes on!

Bill, I agree, there's a lot of unecessary worry generated on the Internet. Some is valid, much is not.

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Best regards, John

Totally agree - and thanks for the info on RAW after the shot - never knew that- now where did I put it that instruction manual

if I was to post a poll asking people how has that dreaded Honda brake failure affected you?
and listed off 5 questions (none of which included "No failure" ) the nature of the post would CREATE the belief that there are Honda's with failing brakes everywhere!

This is why I answered the post above but could not answer the poll.
The original post came across as trolling to be honest.

Might as well ask "How many people in xxx national park have had thier vacations ruined by a Bigfoot attack?"

You have to start with the belief that there is a bigfoot in the park, before you can answer the question...

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Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.

Well, I wasn't expecting this reaction. It's amazing to me that people can understand what motivates someone when they post something in a forum. I should recognize this can happen....I just didn't expect it here and for this poll.

In a sense, yes....I am trolling. But not in the context that is suggested. This is my own idea to get a sense of how many people shoot indoors and therefore would have a problem with the ff issue. The reason is because I almost always shoot outside and it has made an impression on me how many have complained about the ff issue because it is not a relevant one for me. How else would you find out this info if you don't pose the question? It's easier for me to count up the votes by stating it in a poll format. That's it. No other motivation.

And no I can't control what is stated in this thread, but I can tell you I don't appreciate the inference that I am trying to do anything but find out something for my own edification. And so now instead of focusing (no pun intended) on the question, the emphasis is now on why the question was asked and is it a legitimate problem. That is not why I asked, and my hope is that instead of derailing the original intent of the poll....for those who still want to discuss the question itself, I implore you to take what I wrote at face value and make up your own mind about it. For those who want to question whether or not there is an issue or talk about what is brilliant and achievable, there are plenty of other threads with which to navigate. Good day gentlemen.

Polls are tricky becausae you have to pitch the quesions carefully or you affect the answers.

Just asking the question is simpler. In that context, I tested the K-r for EPZ and found no problem with the focusing at even the lowest light levels, including sodium street lighting.

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Best regards, John

Fair enough, and I agree. So what could be more clear than asking whether the ff issues affects your shooting? It's a very simple question. It does not presume there is an issue unless it affects you. If you don't have an issue you just vote NEVER. What could be simpler than that? There are in a lot of other forums the question of whether or not you have a problem or not.....that's why I wanted to isolate this part of THAT question. Perhaps it would have been better to have that poll first. I will concede that point. But the question can still be answered whether or not you believe there is an issue. The two do not have to be mutually exclusive. True?

To ccd333 no offence meant. I've not had any problems indoors but I'm an outdoors wildlife and landscape fan in the main.

What artifical light issues I've had have been getting colour balance right rather than focus. If I felt autofocus was struggling I'd simply override with the quick focus ring on DA lenses or switch to manual with my Sigma wide angle. I personally like spot focus in such conditions anyway as I find the 11 point can be distracted too easily. Probably the root of the perceived problem in many cameras, not just Pentaxes.

To fritzthedog I say yes check it out. You can take RAW and jpeg by default of course, you can assign RAW to the green button as a toggle over ride and you can save to RAW any important or suspect jpeg while still in buffer. Brilliant eh?

BTW, I have to hold myself accountable for my own observation. I stated that I found it amazing that people can understand what motivates someone to post something in a forum. I need to apply the same thing to my own assessment of the posts made. I should have just clarified my motivation and left it at that.

Thanks, Bill.....I appreciate that. I too do primarily landscape and wildlife. I love my K-r and I have no problems with it at all.