It should be better!

Hello Pentaxians

I'me posting here since i don't know where else to put this post. And i'me new to this forum.

I have recently bought the K20D and i was using the K10D. on the K10D i always got great sharp pictures. this does not seams to be the case with the K20D.
Now since i know that i got the right brand of camera since i loved the K10D "had to sell it " I was wondering if there was anybody else that have expericed this. I think that my pictures are blurry compared to the K10D and i have tryed the Back - front focus on the camera but without any luck "I must just be plain stupid " if there is anybody that can help me out it would be great. I have concidered to take the camera back to the dealer and let them have a look at it but i would like to be sure that i have tryed everything before i do that..

Thanks for whatever responce

Welcome to the forum Morten

What lens are you using?
Well, irrespective of the lens, you should be able to get sharp images with the K20. Have you checked the camera with a different lens? Are you sure its the camera?

Nex,

If you could post an example of a problem image, it may help others to solve your issue.

The linses
TAMRON AF 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 Di II LD Aspherical [IF] MACRO
Picture light house 1(7mb)
Picture light house 2(7mb)

If you look at the Lighthouse red/white it don't seams to be scarp. You will have to zoom 100%

Picture wood (7mb)

on this one it's the wood that seams very blurry.
Let me know what you think.

I think you are getting too bogged down pixel peeping. The normal view shows sharp pictures.

What your workflow ?

What are your camera settings ?

Welcome to the forum Morten.

First off let me ask are you aware that of all DSLRs Pentax applies less sharpening to its jpegs than any other brand, so Pentax jpegs wll usually always need some degree of post sharpening, this has the advantage of retaining detail which can be lost if an image is oversharpened.

Secondly, and I dont know if this is fact or not, but perhaps the default sharpness levels are lower on the K20D compared to its older sibling (does anyone else know anything about this?)

Finally, have you actually tried adjusting the sharpness setting on the K20D to see if it improves? I dont mean the focus adjustment but the level applied to the images.

You might be right on that but if i look at a picture from my "old" Camera i don't see this blurryness even if i zoom 100%

uhh workflow could you specifi a bit do think in field or when i get home


I will add the camera settings to the previous post - just a sec

Just looking at the exif data I can see with the light house shots you're using quite a small aperture setting. I don't know the Tamron's 'character' with regard to aperture but I would guess you may see a crisper image in the f/8 - f/11 region and still maintain the desired depth of field.
I do agree with Peter though in that viewed normally they do look perfectly acceptable. Have you tried another lens for comparison?

All images is spot metering. with a exposure compensation at -0.7
Single AF
center Dot aufofocus
1/250sec at f/16
iso 100

1/160 sec at f/18
iso 100

1/500 sec at f/5.6
iso 100

pschlute if you need more let me know

Hi Morton

Workflow..Do you do any post-processing to the picture on the computer, say with photoshop or other software ?

i am at work now and cannot see the exif data on your pictures, so shutter speed; iso; and aperture please.....edit: seen you just posted them Also what settings do you have sharpness/saturation/contrast set to on the camera.

Thanks

Morten, let me chip in please, but bear in mind that I am nowhere in the experience level and expertise as these good members above here who commented are. So take this with a pinch of salt, so here it goes

When you started the thread I thought you were talking about bad images. I really thought you meant something that you need to take the camera and lens straightaway to the shop and good thing yelvertoft suggested you to upload the images so we could have a look.

Now looking at the images my first impression is that there is nothing wrong with them. But again as you mention you used the K10D so you knew what to expect, something better, but as far as I think it must be just the settings that need to be tweaked or you need to PP. Alan (impotentspider) seems to be spot on there. And when the other member asked you about your workflow he means what do you shoot? RAW or jpeg? and how do you process your images, starting from what softwares etc. Trust me on this, it makes a heck of a difference what you load it into and how you manipulate it.

If you really want to see the beauty of the K20 with regard to sharpness then get hold of a DA* lens and have a go, and then post process it and add some sharpness on to it and you will see what it can give it to you. You will be amazed at it. I know I was.
Now one last thing, there is a learning process that goes into how you handle your new camera, and as you are already experienced you will be able to take full advantage of it within a very short period of time. That feeling you are going through that its not as sharp as you would expect? Rings the bell in me and within a short period of time I could not recognise my own images that I had taken and processed. Even today I am still going back and retrieving my old processed images and redoing it. Not saying that you are inexperienced or do not know how to do it, just saying that this camera gives you the ability to fully manipulate things the way you want. RAW really means RAW and if you shoot JPEG then tweak the settings and you will find a huge difference

By the way, if you shot in RAW do you have an original image that you can put a link and I can dl and try to manipulate it?
Or if not then the full JPG would do but in its original size

The pictures are converted to jpeg in lightroom so that you don't have to download the raw fileI take all my picture in pentax raw format.

I have uploadet one more
. bunker
1/200 sec at f/8,0

BR Morten

Thanks all for you thoughts and ideas so far.

Give me a sec (or minute) i will upload the raws too.

Also the lens is the lens i used on the K10D so i know what i expect from that lens on the K10D.

But i think that i have to get into more post processing but that is not my trade if you know what i mean.

if I do post processing I do it in lightroom and that it.

compared to the original, and didn't do much, just removed the haze by sharpening a little, can you see the difference?