Intentional Camera Movement
Posted 28/08/2023 - 21:58 - Helpful Comment
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I don't do these but ....
There are two components to this scene - a horizontal one (across the waterfall) and a vertical one (the trees and the falling water). It strikes me that if you get a nice ICM effect with one you will automatically get a jarring one with the other. The most common ICMs are of woodland full of vertical tree trunks - one component.
This is pure logic so if I'm wrong, please shoot it down.
There are two components to this scene - a horizontal one (across the waterfall) and a vertical one (the trees and the falling water). It strikes me that if you get a nice ICM effect with one you will automatically get a jarring one with the other. The most common ICMs are of woodland full of vertical tree trunks - one component.
This is pure logic so if I'm wrong, please shoot it down.
Posted 28/08/2023 - 21:59 - Helpful Comment
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Well, you've had a go and found that it's easy to get a picture but much harder to get a good picture. Welcome to the club! As for what makes a 'good' ICM picture, my view is simple: if you like it then it's good, if other people like it too then it's a miracle . Personally, I prefer to hang around at the abstract end of the spectrum where it's more about shape, colour, tones, contrast etc. than a specific subject. But that's just me, it's just as valid to like seeing a bit of recognisable subject.
Keep experimenting - different subjects, different movements, different exposures - it's cheap, it's fun and it's nothing like 'normal photography!!
Steve
Keep experimenting - different subjects, different movements, different exposures - it's cheap, it's fun and it's nothing like 'normal photography!!
Steve
Posted 28/08/2023 - 22:15 - Helpful Comment
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Others probably know more but I will try an advise.
A prime lens helps usually 50 mm or 35mm at f12 and beyond
A slow shutter speed yes but more like half a second to an eight of a second depending.
When pressing the shutter release try to hold the camera steady for the initial opening and then move up or down or which ever way one wants.
The reason for that slight delay before moving the camera is to imbed the impression of the scene first onto the sensor and then the movement makes the swirls or movement as such but still holds the essence of the scene.
Takes a bit of practice but you will synchronise easily.
Forest trees or any set of verticals is a great place to start.
A prime lens helps usually 50 mm or 35mm at f12 and beyond
A slow shutter speed yes but more like half a second to an eight of a second depending.
When pressing the shutter release try to hold the camera steady for the initial opening and then move up or down or which ever way one wants.
The reason for that slight delay before moving the camera is to imbed the impression of the scene first onto the sensor and then the movement makes the swirls or movement as such but still holds the essence of the scene.
Takes a bit of practice but you will synchronise easily.
Forest trees or any set of verticals is a great place to start.
Posted 29/08/2023 - 00:46 - Helpful Comment
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Forgot to add this Grumpy, turn off Ibis (stabilisation) when shooting ICM, good night and God Bless.
Posted 29/08/2023 - 08:28 - Helpful Comment
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Keep on practicing and be prepared to edit your images differently to any usual habits you may have for sharp images. Good advice already given. It's not always about a lot of movement but choice of movements. As said trees are a good starting place.
Posted 29/08/2023 - 22:55
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That one ought to go on a wall Nigel.
Posted 30/08/2023 - 06:38
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davidwozhere wrote:
That one ought to go on a wall Nigel.
Of an optician...?That one ought to go on a wall Nigel.
I like it...you think you know what it is, but you're just not quite sure. Great stuff.
David
Posted 30/08/2023 - 16:44 - Helpful Comment
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Nice shooting GGP - not an easy type of shot to get right, but advice from the master (Nigelk) will give you some good tips - take a look at some of his past contributions and you'll see his style
LennyBloke
Posted 30/08/2023 - 17:36
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Thanks for support and info folks.
Will try harder when I do it again.
One wag reminded me of the very old adage - "If all else fails, kick the tripod" - might just try that too
Will try harder when I do it again.
One wag reminded me of the very old adage - "If all else fails, kick the tripod" - might just try that too
Grumpy GrandPa, Recently Retired.
Gotta K-3iii now, had a K-S2, K50 and so suffering from a relapse and so buying digital camera kit.
Previous addiction has resulted in using Zeniths, Yashicamat, Chinons, Minoltas, Samsungs, Fujis, Cosina, Kodak, Lumix, Canon, Nikon and Pentax etc etc - have tried most makes in the past 50 years. Love cameras - love taking photos even more
Gotta K-3iii now, had a K-S2, K50 and so suffering from a relapse and so buying digital camera kit.
Previous addiction has resulted in using Zeniths, Yashicamat, Chinons, Minoltas, Samsungs, Fujis, Cosina, Kodak, Lumix, Canon, Nikon and Pentax etc etc - have tried most makes in the past 50 years. Love cameras - love taking photos even more
Posted 30/08/2023 - 19:17 - Helpful Comment
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I don't get why you have a problem with ICM.
All my photographs turn out like they were shot with ICM in mind.
Funny thing is, in my case it's UICM. All unintentional. Somehow, try as I may, I just cant manage to hold a camera steady...lol... Even my tripod exhibits the shakes!
All my photographs turn out like they were shot with ICM in mind.
Funny thing is, in my case it's UICM. All unintentional. Somehow, try as I may, I just cant manage to hold a camera steady...lol... Even my tripod exhibits the shakes!
C.O.L.B.A.S victim
(Compulsive Obsessive Lens Buying Addiction Syndrome)
What you need are lenses, more lenses, bigger lenses, better lenses, faster lenses, vintage lenses and when you have these, your pictures will be perfect!
(Compulsive Obsessive Lens Buying Addiction Syndrome)
What you need are lenses, more lenses, bigger lenses, better lenses, faster lenses, vintage lenses and when you have these, your pictures will be perfect!
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I took quite a few BUT they were even worse than this one! There's a balance to be found where you can/cannot recognise the subject - or do you need to e.g. make it into an abstract?????
Gotta K-3iii now, had a K-S2, K50 and so suffering from a relapse and so buying digital camera kit.
Previous addiction has resulted in using Zeniths, Yashicamat, Chinons, Minoltas, Samsungs, Fujis, Cosina, Kodak, Lumix, Canon, Nikon and Pentax etc etc - have tried most makes in the past 50 years. Love cameras - love taking photos even more