IMAGE QUALITY OPTIO W80
Posted 13/12/2009 - 16:21
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Yes pixel count goes up but the pixel gets smaller so less light falls on them meaning they need to need to amplify it more meaning more noise.
That's why everything over 6mp with those small sensor is useless at the moment.
That's why everything over 6mp with those small sensor is useless at the moment.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Posted 13/12/2009 - 16:27
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Anvh wrote:
Yes pixel count goes up but the pixel gets smaller so less light falls on them meaning they need to need to amplify it more meaning more noise.
That's why everything over 6mp with those small sensor is useless at the moment.
I agree that more pixels does not mean better IQ but I don't agree with the term "useless" for those cameras with 6+ MP.Yes pixel count goes up but the pixel gets smaller so less light falls on them meaning they need to need to amplify it more meaning more noise.
That's why everything over 6mp with those small sensor is useless at the moment.
The links I inserted don't link to useless images, but that is only my point of view.
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Too far from a shore.
Posted 13/12/2009 - 16:37 - Helpful Comment
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Gary useless might be a bit of a big word but there is really not much between an 6mp vs 8mp at those sizes, they also demands more of the lens the 8mp to be effective let alone when we go and look at the 12mp models.
You might see a difference with the lower pixel count sensors at optimal conditions but when it gets a bit dark then so good as all is equal.
About your links they do look good and really don't be offended by them, I only said that you wont see a big increase in performance when pixel count goes up.
Here is a shoot out with waterproof cameras.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q209waterproofgroup/
Canon Powershot D10, Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS1 & Pentax Optio W60 seems to be the best of the bunch.
Lumix has the best high iso performance.
You might see a difference with the lower pixel count sensors at optimal conditions but when it gets a bit dark then so good as all is equal.
About your links they do look good and really don't be offended by them, I only said that you wont see a big increase in performance when pixel count goes up.
Here is a shoot out with waterproof cameras.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q209waterproofgroup/
Canon Powershot D10, Panasonic Lumix DMC-TS1 & Pentax Optio W60 seems to be the best of the bunch.
Lumix has the best high iso performance.
Stefan
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Posted 13/12/2009 - 16:57
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Hi gary, nice quality pic of the very young lady. I would be quite happy with a picture of that quality.
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Posted 13/12/2009 - 16:59
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Stefan, is that why the shots taken with the flash are half decent? Do you think there could be a degree of considerable underexposure?
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Posted 13/12/2009 - 18:31
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Cedric, the size of the sensor has not much to do with the exposure so that's not the problem.
If the metering is the same as with any pentax then it compensate for the highlights.
It's hard to tell anything of those small photos
If the metering is the same as with any pentax then it compensate for the highlights.
It's hard to tell anything of those small photos
Stefan
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Posted 13/12/2009 - 18:53
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Thanks for the link Stefan, wish I had seen it before I bought the W80.
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Posted 15/12/2009 - 20:35
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I have had a reply from Pentax. They have asked for a photograph to look at. Their first comment was to check the ISO, this is in fact 200 but the noise level is beyond belief! Will keep the info coming as I hear from them. Must admit to being surprised to hear back from them.
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