I'm Puzzled

johnc765
Posted 23/04/2012 - 20:14 Link
took this photo at a party, Don't know what I did but I like the effect and would like to reproduce it in other contexts. Anyone got any idea on what i did?

[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/6hkolg.jpg[/IMG]
fritzthedog
Posted 23/04/2012 - 20:19 Link
I suspect you had a slow shutter speed and the people at the back moved causing ghosting - if that is the bit you are referring to?
No matter how many lenses I have owned - I have always needed just one more
alfpics
Posted 23/04/2012 - 20:36 Link
I agree with the slow shutter speed - and then did the flash fire as well, which could give this. So the camera moved and picked up the background lights (being bright) and blurred them, then the flash 'froze' the people in the foreground
Andy
Andy
Edited by alfpics: 23/04/2012 - 20:36
DaveHolmes
Posted 23/04/2012 - 21:57 Link
If you upload it to your PU-gallery, we can see your exif data (I can't see it now, maybe someone else can?) but at a guess I'd agree with alfpics... Slow shutter (maybe camera movement also) caught motion blur and flash froze it...
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Mandrake
Posted 23/04/2012 - 22:03 Link
To recreate that effect, I think you just need to give booze to your subjects!
Simon

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JAK
Posted 23/04/2012 - 22:12 Link
DaveHolmes wrote:
... exif data (I can't see it now, maybe someone else can?) ...
Camera Model: PENTAX K-x
Image Date: 2012-01-01 00:01:42 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 42.5mm (35mm equivalent: 64mm)
Aperture: f/4.5
Exposure Time: 1.300 s
ISO equiv: 200
Exposure Bias: -1.00 EV
Metering Mode: Spot
Exposure: program (Auto)
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Software: K-x Ver 1.00
John K
Edited by JAK: 23/04/2012 - 22:14
steven9761
Posted 23/04/2012 - 22:21 Link
I'm guessing copious amounts of alcohol will faithfully recreate that effect for you - ably assisted by that delightful young Belgian lady called Stella!!
Edited by steven9761: 23/04/2012 - 22:22
Smeggypants
Posted 23/04/2012 - 23:28 Link
As the flash didn't fire, It looks like the camera was held pretty steady for most of the 1.3s exposure and then moved away causing the lamp trails.

Adding flash in slow sync mode will allow ambient expose ( long shutter speds ) and you can get the flash to stop motion
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
DaveHolmes
Posted 23/04/2012 - 23:38 Link
JAK wrote:
DaveHolmes wrote:
... exif data (I can't see it now, maybe someone else can?) ...
Camera Model: PENTAX K-x
Image Date: 2012-01-01 00:01:42 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 42.5mm (35mm equivalent: 64mm)
Aperture: f/4.5
Exposure Time: 1.300 s
ISO equiv: 200
Exposure Bias: -1.00 EV
Metering Mode: Spot
Exposure: program (Auto)
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Software: K-x Ver 1.00
Off topic but I would consider a firmware update on your K-x... It will improve your battery usage/accuracy of battery metre if nothing else...
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Digital:
Pentax K5- Vivitar 19mm 3.8; FA35mm f2; D-Xenon 100mm macro f2.8; DA50-200mm WR...
Flash:
Yongnuo YN-560; Vivitar 285HV; Cactus V4 triggers...
Film:
Pentax-MX & M50mm f1.4; Spottie & 55mm f1.8; MG & M40mm 2.8...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveholmesphotos/
DaveHolmes
Posted 23/04/2012 - 23:45 Link
Question... Your flash did not fire... Were there any lights in the room that were flashing?
Fairy lights maybe?

The lady and the gent in the foreground are much sharper than I'd get for a second+ exposure without flash...

I wonder if there was an ambient source (ambient is the wrong word but a light source unconnected to the camera)that was flashing; causing a freeze in the forgroung and ghosting in the background?
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Digital:
Pentax K5- Vivitar 19mm 3.8; FA35mm f2; D-Xenon 100mm macro f2.8; DA50-200mm WR...
Flash:
Yongnuo YN-560; Vivitar 285HV; Cactus V4 triggers...
Film:
Pentax-MX & M50mm f1.4; Spottie & 55mm f1.8; MG & M40mm 2.8...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveholmesphotos/
pentaxian450
Posted 24/04/2012 - 00:36 Link
He might have used a flash that doesn't "communicate" with the camera. The foreground really looks like it's "frozen" by a flash.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Smeggypants
Posted 24/04/2012 - 01:37 Link
I've had a few pics like this where I surprised part of the shot was without motion blur even on long exposures with no flash. sometimes you can hold the camera steady for quite long periods of time. It's not repeatable every time

You can tell there's no flash becuase there's no shadows from the main subjects
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Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
johnc765
Posted 24/04/2012 - 04:42 Link
Thanks peeps. I couldn't tell you about the flash as i am clueless. but i get the slow shutter with flash at the end.

ok now to figure updating this firmware
Smeggypants
Posted 24/04/2012 - 06:48 Link
johnc765 wrote:
Thanks peeps. I couldn't tell you about the flash as i am clueless.
Too drunk to notice whether the flash went off?


Quote:
but i get the slow shutter with flash at the end.

ok now to figure updating this firmware
Or at the beginning.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Father Ted
Posted 24/04/2012 - 11:10 Link
Could the bright area to the right be a clue? Is that someone else's flash firing whilst John was taking his photo?
It would create the same effect.
Getting there! Thanks to you guys

Pentax K3ii, Pentax K10d, Kit lens ( 18-55mm ), 50mm f1.7 lens, Tamron 70-300mm lens, Prinzflex 70-162 manual lens, Various old flashes.

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