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Posted 15/03/2008 - 20:10
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Welcome to the 21st Century Chris.
Most kind.Welcome to the 21st Century Chris.
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Tip: If you haven't got one already, get a Spyder or a Huey for even better colour results.
Hmm. In my language, one of these is an expensive Alfa Romeo, and the other is a military helicopter.Tip: If you haven't got one already, get a Spyder or a Huey for even better colour results.
I'll chance my arm and guess you mean neither of these.
Could you elaborate?
Posted 15/03/2008 - 21:02
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Chris, is it a true 8-bit display? I've got a BENQ 22" FP222W 1680x1050 and it is really a 6-bit panel that does 8-bit (interpolated). This is glaringly obvious when you look at many nature photos.
If you are not aware of it, I suggest you look at the free (no spyware - no unpleasant surprises), good quality wallpapers uploaded by the public at www.interfacelift.com. Here's a link to the 1680x1050 wallpapers, sorted by date. I often check for new additions using this link:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/index.php?sort=date&aspect=widescreen&...
Some of the photos are really great. Try this, from a recent upload:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1506
I'm not a fan of the graphic design/virtual world stuff. Having said that, I liked this creation:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1495
And here's a semi-abstract representation of the solar system:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1331
Dan Bridges
If you are not aware of it, I suggest you look at the free (no spyware - no unpleasant surprises), good quality wallpapers uploaded by the public at www.interfacelift.com. Here's a link to the 1680x1050 wallpapers, sorted by date. I often check for new additions using this link:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/index.php?sort=date&aspect=widescreen&...
Some of the photos are really great. Try this, from a recent upload:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1506
I'm not a fan of the graphic design/virtual world stuff. Having said that, I liked this creation:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1495
And here's a semi-abstract representation of the solar system:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1331
Dan Bridges
Posted 15/03/2008 - 22:06
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Chris, is it a true 8-bit display? I've got a BENQ 22" FP222W 1680x1050 and it is really a 6-bit panel that does 8-bit (interpolated). This is glaringly obvious when you look at many nature photos.
What should I look for? The pictures you posted look nice enough, but whatever is glaringly obvious to you is sadly not to me.
Chris, is it a true 8-bit display? I've got a BENQ 22" FP222W 1680x1050 and it is really a 6-bit panel that does 8-bit (interpolated). This is glaringly obvious when you look at many nature photos.
Posted 15/03/2008 - 22:37
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Chris, the specific links I posted don't show interpolation effects on my LCD monitor. I've deleted the flower one that did. I'll see if I can find it again.
Dan Bridges
Dan Bridges
Posted 15/03/2008 - 22:37
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Congratulations, Chris! A wise choice. I have always had high thoughts of the Samsung monitors.
As for colour depth, Samsung specifies 16.7 mill colours, which is the equivalent of 24 bit colour depth.
As for colour depth, Samsung specifies 16.7 mill colours, which is the equivalent of 24 bit colour depth.
Best regards
Terry
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Posted 15/03/2008 - 22:52
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Chris, look at the photo at this link:
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1235
Towards the right-hand side of the photo, it appears "noisy" in my monitor because it can't use enough colours and has to rely on interpolation. What about yours?
It would be good it someone with a CRT looked at it too in case it's a JPG limitation.
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1235
Towards the right-hand side of the photo, it appears "noisy" in my monitor because it can't use enough colours and has to rely on interpolation. What about yours?
It would be good it someone with a CRT looked at it too in case it's a JPG limitation.
Posted 15/03/2008 - 23:51
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Towards the right-hand side of the photo, it appears "noisy" in my monitor because it can't use enough colours and has to rely on interpolation. What about yours?
It does look a bit grainy.Towards the right-hand side of the photo, it appears "noisy" in my monitor because it can't use enough colours and has to rely on interpolation. What about yours?
How do we tell whether this is a monitor limitation, or something else?
Posted 16/03/2008 - 02:12
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Chris, if it's a overly-processed photo problem or JPG encoding artifact, the colours on the right will appear grainy on a CRT too. If it's a LCD monitor colour rendering problem, the CRT will look OK.
Let's hope either a CRT user or a dual-screen CRT & LCD user responds.
Let's hope either a CRT user or a dual-screen CRT & LCD user responds.
Posted 16/03/2008 - 03:28
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Chris, the colour graduation in that flower photo look much smoother on my ACER Aspire 5720 (1280x800) laptop. It's a cheapie.
Dan Bridges
Dan Bridges
Posted 16/03/2008 - 12:51
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Just to return to that picture of Melbourne by night, thought I'd show you the version I've just re-edited, with the original from before the monitor change.
This is the original version:

And now, with the brightness adjusted for the new monitor (no noise reduction applied - just brightness and contrast):

Interesting, huh? The top one on my old monitor looks like the bottom one on the new one.
This is the original version:

And now, with the brightness adjusted for the new monitor (no noise reduction applied - just brightness and contrast):

Interesting, huh? The top one on my old monitor looks like the bottom one on the new one.
Posted 16/03/2008 - 16:15
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Chris,
On my monitor the original looks 'terrible' and the re-edited version looks great
On my monitor the original looks 'terrible' and the re-edited version looks great
Hyram
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And conversely, of course, a lot of others' photos appear very dark to me.
Well I've finally taken the plunge and bought a new 'puter, including a Samsung 226BW monitor, which came as part of the system. It has 1680x1050 native resolution, and it has completely blown me away.
It really is much, much brighter, and I can see detail in people's pictures that I couldn't before.
And, not surprisingly, many of mine, in particular this one, on which one of our competition judges remarked recently, do indeed look horribly noisy.
So, the moral of the story is, one has to move with the times, or suffer the consequences. I'll have to re-edit quite a few of my better photographs, but hopefully it'll be worth it.