I Could Have Kicked Myself


McGregNi

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 11:23
But I didn't in the end! Youngest daughter was all dressed up, I'd spent ages getting my flashes all set up, managed to get youngest daughter to sit still and look up (well, for a few of the shots!) . generally came away thinking "OK, got a few good ones there .."

Until I got the files onto the computer .oh what ?!?! JPEGS! 1107 x 1547mp! File size 1.4 Mb!

I'd been so careful to check all the exposure settings and white balance, but completely forgotton that last week I'd been just taking some test shots, and had set the camera to JPEG mode, 2mp

That was it I thought. Wasted. Unusable. I decided to go through the motions and see what I could salvage. I skipped the usual RAW software and just went into Photoshop . did some basic levels, colour correction, NR and sharpening and this came out .





Well, I was pleasantly surprised. It was going to be all fine after all. The photos will probably only be used on screens, and iPads and mobile phones mostly. This issues I saw in Photoshop with poor skin texture and pixelated detail close up just wasn't an issue once processed and displayed as they will actually be seen.

I still prefer the satisfaction of working on the full RAW image, and the quality obtainable from that for large prints if needed. But it made me realise that for the majority of real world purposes that the resolutions we often worry about and debate over .. well, it probably doesn't really matter that much!
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johnriley

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 11:30
Glad it worked out. A full size JPEG would have given your RAW captures a run for their money as well.....

Just a thought though. Whatever we shoot, perhaps use the maximum resolution anyway, just in case one of the shots happens to be less mundane than we anticipated, maybe even a winning shot.
Best regards, John
Last Edited by johnriley on 08/11/2018 - 11:33

danofmk

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 11:41
I remember back in the day having a 5mp point and shoot digital. That was quite advanced at the time!

Took a shot I liked set at 3mp, got it printed at 8 x 12 size. Still got it today, still looks good.

As you say, for 90 percent of us we've probably got about 10mp going spare for lost most of our work!

McGregNi

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 11:47
johnriley wrote:
. Whatever we shoot, perhaps use the maximum resolution anyway, .

Yes definitely! Obviously RAW takes care of that automatically, but these days with SD cards so cheap there's not much to be gained by reducing the sizes, assuming computer processing will be part of things anyway (which it should be, right ? ).

In my case I decided to save card space just for the series of test shots I was doing (flash testing). Ideally there needs to be a thorough scan of the Info screen on the camera every time before starting a shoot. I thought I had covered everything ..


danofmk wrote:
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As you say, for 90 percent of us we've probably got about 10mp going spare for lost most of our work!

Yes . but how much have K1 users got spare ?
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Last Edited by McGregNi on 08/11/2018 - 11:49

johnriley

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 11:56
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Yes . but how much have K1 users got spare ?

I've just had some 18" x 12" prints made from the K-1 and the quality and detail is just staggering, even with the closest examination. For these, all the resolution counted, but for web then a 12 MP camera would be doing just fine.
Best regards, John

McGregNi

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 12:01
Oh come on John, this is all about making me feel happy, content, not at all envious and able to stick my tongue out at all K1 users .."nah nah nah, I've only got a K7 still, nah nah nah" Of course I don't need a K1 .. no I don't, honestly .
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RobL

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 13:45
McGregNi wrote:
Oh come on John, this is all about making me feel happy, content, not at all envious and able to stick my tongue out at all K1 users .."nah nah nah, I've only got a K7 still, nah nah nah" Of course I don't need a K1 .. no I don't, honestly .

Christmas is coming!?

McGregNi

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 14:00
I'm afraid my place in the pecking order is fairly well down.... Well, very well down .... Ok, I'm completely not in the pecking order!

Not to worry though, as you've seen the K7 strides ever onwards ....oh, would someone please send me a reminder message to check my JPEG size/quality settings before Christmas Day!
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

richandfleur

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 20:21
Given most monitors are 1080p, which is approx 2mp, there's not a lot of need for anything greater if that's the final use of the image.

Small comment on the photo Greg, is it back focussed? (or is it just the great hair back lighting that's creating this impression?)

I had a similar story where I was asked to take some photos of campus projects underway, for someone elses presentation. I was handed a 'top quality DSLR camera' to do the job, (an entry level canon), and off I went using that. It was a cool experience actually, getting to actively use another brand and see what they were doing. Got well annoyed at the zoom lens turning 'the wrong way' etc but found the menu system very good/professional looking.
When I got back though I found that the image size setting was sent to postage stamp mode. Had to go out and re do all the images again quickly the next morning

(Side note but if you ever want to feel better about your Pentax, especially it's solid/rugged feel, go an shoot with an equivalent priced Canon ...)

stub

Link Posted 08/11/2018 - 22:41
Your not crediting the extra image size of the K1. With its zoom and crop ability on parts of an image. Still retaining print value... Something the K7 certainly cant do. I know I'm still a K-7 owner too...!!

Nice portraits Nigel.. You may want to review the cropping of half your daughters hand...
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Last Edited by stub on 08/11/2018 - 22:44

walkeja

Link Posted 09/11/2018 - 10:48
McGregNi wrote:
Of course I don't need a K1 .. no I don't, honestly .

Oh yes you do.....!
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Last Edited by walkeja on 09/11/2018 - 10:48

MrB

Link Posted 09/11/2018 - 12:50
johnriley wrote:

.....A full size JPEG would have given your RAW captures a run for their money as well.....
.....

I couldn't agree more, John. The maximum size and quality JPEGs are good in almost every case and (as Nigel has discovered) they will accept the usual kinds of Photoshop-type tweaking to give excellent quality photos, e.g. for club competition projected images and prints up to A3.

Nigel, perhaps you might consider setting up a User Mode with all the appropriate settings to give a typical good shot at maximum JPEG size and quality plus raw. Then get into the habit of switching the camera to that mode (if necessary) at the end of every shoot.

Cheers.
Philip
Last Edited by MrB on 09/11/2018 - 12:53
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