high iso on k20
Posted 18/04/2009 - 07:59
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I have one Scott, keep your ISO below 800. also check the noise reduction setting, I often turn mine off when in Raw especially on the K200, "noise reduction" is compromise on quality and “grain” in film many would use a “grainy” film for effect.
Look at some of the “film” shots and you will see vast differences in colour texture etc.
Digital images can be similar, when looking at film shots make sure you compare the ones with info on them film type, speed, shutter etc. etc.
If you want to see what I mean look at my Gallery at the "Bar head" goose taken in raw iso 200, grain, noise, in backgound but image very sharp, look in the eye you can even see the fencing when enlarged. and that goose was 20ft away.
Ps If I had wanted I could have put a new background in.
Look at some of the “film” shots and you will see vast differences in colour texture etc.
Digital images can be similar, when looking at film shots make sure you compare the ones with info on them film type, speed, shutter etc. etc.
If you want to see what I mean look at my Gallery at the "Bar head" goose taken in raw iso 200, grain, noise, in backgound but image very sharp, look in the eye you can even see the fencing when enlarged. and that goose was 20ft away.
Ps If I had wanted I could have put a new background in.
Posted 18/04/2009 - 10:01
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hi richard, to be honest i normally have the iso set to iso 1000 max on both the k200 and k20, but as the owl area at paignton is so dark i put the iso up to 1600, and took a couple pics then relised some how i had put on iso 4000,and i will be honest i rarely shot raw, but i do have the noise reduction on the camera set to the lowest,
just keep snapping,
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http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
Posted 18/04/2009 - 10:10
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But actually it isn't that bad.
If you would have shot it in RAW then you could create a nice image out of it in Silkypix.
If you would have shot it in RAW then you could create a nice image out of it in Silkypix.
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Posted 18/04/2009 - 10:11
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People are to much looking into noise these days, just compare this shot at ISO 4000 with a iso 800 or 1600 35mm film, you are going to be shocked how bad the film performs in comparison with the ISO4000 shot.
Camera:K20D|Ist*DS|Spotmatic II|MZ-10
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
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Posted 18/04/2009 - 10:14
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golfdiesel wrote:
People are to much looking into noise these days, just compare this shot at ISO 4000 with a iso 800 or 1600 35mm film, you are going to be shocked how bad the film performs in comparison with the ISO4000 shot.
Absolutely, I agree. And for ISO4000 I think that shot is great.People are to much looking into noise these days, just compare this shot at ISO 4000 with a iso 800 or 1600 35mm film, you are going to be shocked how bad the film performs in comparison with the ISO4000 shot.
My K20 was much noisier than that before the exchange of the CCD block, now I see what is possible with this camera (and I wasn't even unhappy before ).
Prieni
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Posted 18/04/2009 - 10:15
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to be honest i have always been happy with the results from the k100d super, k200 and k20d in jpeg mode, i have shot raw on a couple of times and really should try and get in to shooting raw, i will have to do some test shots and compare, something i should of done before,
and golfdiesel you could well be right, but i was happy with this at iso 4000 in jpeg mode and the only noise reduction done in camera on weekest,
and golfdiesel you could well be right, but i was happy with this at iso 4000 in jpeg mode and the only noise reduction done in camera on weekest,
just keep snapping,
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
Posted 18/04/2009 - 10:19
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see thats were i cant compare as i have never shot with a decent film camera,,and thanks golfdiesel, prieni im glad you got your cam back in perfect working order, as alot of people have not, and i wonder how terry got his back anyone know,
just keep snapping,
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
Posted 18/04/2009 - 18:05
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cheers sanderscape for the comment, and important spider it was iso 4000 by mistake and i know what your saying, and your pic looks a cracker,
just keep snapping,
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/scottbenson
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.
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http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww272/scottthehat/
CAMERAS = k200d + battery grip.
nikon d300 + battery grip.
LENSES = tamron aspherical DII 18-200mm f3.5/6.3,
nikon 18-200mm afs vr f3.5/5.6 g dx
sigma 150-500mm apo dg hsm os
sigma 170-500mm apo dg
FLASH = samsung sef36pzf flash + more.