HEATHFIELD - Colour in the Countryside


McGregNi

Link Posted 22/07/2014 - 21:04
Here's a few with the 18-55 AL WR, and a few with the 'M' 75-150 .... This is Heathfield House & Garden on Gravel Hill between Croydon & Addington (along the tram line). Its very near to Coombe Wood & Gardens where my last set of photos was shot. I only took those two lenses as I wanted to put the kit lens through its paces. I'm considering the Tamron 28-75, or an upgrade to the kit like a 17-70. All shot with the K7.

Let me know here what you think of the 18-55 performance. Let me know what you think of the shots as well ! All handheld, SR activated, generally the wide zoom images were fairly wide at about f8.0 - f10. The telezoom images were shot at f4.5. This will be the first of a couple of sets showcasing this beautiful spot in South London.


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Thanks for seeing these and for all your comments and thoughts.
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andrewk

Link Posted 22/07/2014 - 21:22
I think these are brilliant. Lots of detail and great colour.

I have a DA 18-55mm ALII which, apart from the weather proofing, is pretty much the same lens as your WR version. I have tried several primes at 24mm, 28mm, 35mm and 50mm - but the lens that spends most time on the camera is the 18-55mm kit lens. It is definitely better at 24mm than the Sigma 24mm f/2.8 Superwide II (though is not so great at f/2.8 ). It isn't *quite* up to the standard of the DA 35mm f/2.4 at any aperture - but the difference at f/8 and beyond is not large. It is pretty close to the A 50mm f/1.7 at f/5.6 and all but indisinguishable at f/8.

From time to time, I ponder about whether to buy a supposedly better alternative to the kit lens - but it does work so well, doesn't it?

I love the M75-150mm lens and have used it a lot - but not much recently, at least not since I bought a DA 55-300mm. I haven't done any detailed testing between the two - I'm not sure I really want to know the answer. FWIW, I suspect that the M75-150 is better over common focal lengths.

If I do buy another lens any time soon, I think maybe I need something wider - and cannot really see many alterative to the Samyang 14mm you also have.

Andrew
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Last Edited by andrewk on 22/07/2014 - 21:26

MrB

Link Posted 22/07/2014 - 22:44
I like this colourful set, Nigel - the colours look good and the flowers are wonderful, especially #3. I prefer #1 to #7 - I like the way the wall on the left and the pillar on the right help to frame the composition (and #7 is not quite vertical).

Cheers.
Philip

cameraboy

Link Posted 23/07/2014 - 04:10
Lovely shots, you don't get flowers like this in Thailand, generally too hot. Regards Ian
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frob

Link Posted 23/07/2014 - 06:45
Really like these McGreg- No1 is so well balanced and IMO the best of the set. I have and use both of these lenses. The 75-150 is so good at around its minimum focus distance when I get it right, and the 18-55 WR always surprises me. As a novice the most frustrating part of using the 75-150 is the not having a record of the f stop which is the reason I was tempted to lash out on an the 35mm 2.8 ltd. So far it has really impressed me, but the 75-150 has a quality I find it hard to define.
Do you have a way of remembering your fstop with manual lenses- there must be a simple way.
Regards, Rob.

edit. The clarity in the flower 'portraits' is excellent, but IMO the composition is lacking. Don't ask me how, it's a 'feel' thing
Last Edited by frob on 23/07/2014 - 06:53

Algernon

Link Posted 23/07/2014 - 08:43
All great and capture perfectly what we like to think
British summers are always like

Would make perfect calendar prints.

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RussV

Link Posted 23/07/2014 - 09:12
Some very good shots. I would have left out number 7 as it echoes number 1 which is a better image. 4 and 5 are maybe the weakest in subject-composition.

I'm nit picking though, there's not a bad picture here, and of course personal preference comes into it.
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Last Edited by RussV on 23/07/2014 - 09:14

McGregNi

Link Posted 23/07/2014 - 16:54
andrewk wrote:
I think these are brilliant. Lots of detail and great colour.... From time to time, I ponder about whether to buy a supposedly better alternative to the kit lens - but it does work so well, doesn't it? ...

I love the M75-150mm lens and have used it a lot .... FWIW, I suspect that the M75-150 is better over common focal lengths....

If I do buy another lens any time soon, I think maybe I need something wider - and cannot really see many alterative to the Samyang 14mm you also have. Andrew

Thanks very much Andrew, I appreciate that - yes, these two lenses pack a lot of punch. As you are aware from my other thread I'm looking to 'upgrade' at least part of the range covered by the kit - maybe the Tamron 28-75? But I feel I should keep the 18-55, especially for the wider end where this sort of landscape / garden stuff at f8.0 it does a great job.

The 75-150mm is hard to beat as well - PF is an issue (you need to look very closely at those purple flowers around the edges ) but easily reduced if needed. I still want something else though for portraits, both autofocus and wider aperture ...

The Samyang is hard to beat (although judging from my previous photo thread where it seems to be too sharp!!! - no, I just needed to adjust my sharpening regime ) . I've talked about the 14mm Samyang plenty of times before and can only recommend it.
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Pentaxophile

Link Posted 24/07/2014 - 09:11
These are lovely, all seem to hold the eye very well and the colours are punchy without looking unnatural! No.1 is my favourite, I really like the light and shadow on the LHS, and balanced composition. Agree with Russ - no. 7 is a weaker version of no.1 and should be culled!
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andrewk

Link Posted 24/07/2014 - 12:37
McGregNi wrote:
As you are aware from my other thread I'm looking to 'upgrade' at least part of the range covered by the kit - maybe the Tamron 28-75?

I have a Pentax F 35-70mm f/3.5-4.5. It really is very good - and you'll probably be able to pick up a mint one for well less than 50

Andrew
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McGregNi

Link Posted 24/07/2014 - 14:47
Algernon wrote:
All great and capture perfectly what we like to think British summers are always like Would make perfect calendar prints.

Pentaxophile wrote:
These are lovely, all seem to hold the eye very well and the colours are punchy without looking unnatural! No.1 is my favourite, I really like the light and shadow on the LHS, and balanced composition. !

Thanks Algi! I remember another of my threads where the term 'postcard blues' was used - another was 'chocolate boxes' - now calendars ! - hey, maybe I will be able to jack in the day job after all ... I'll need a full frame then though ... oh no, then I'd have to jump ship ... and then I'd need to find another forum (anyone know any?) - (better stop all this backchat now)

Thanks also Will, very pleased they appeal , and if you saw the unprocessed RAW with the near pitch black under the veranda, I think we might all have to reassess our ideas on the K7s shadow recovery abilities ...

Thanks also Russ, frob, MrB, cameraboy and Andrew for your replies. Andrew, I'll check out that 35-70 - I'm still tempted by a new Tammy at the current prices
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 24/07/2014 - 14:59

andrewk

Link Posted 24/07/2014 - 15:01
McGregNi wrote:
The 75-150mm is hard to beat as well - PF is an issue (you need to look very closely at those purple flowers around the edges )

I spent part of this afternoon comparing three lenses at 100mm focal length. The M75-150mm, the DA 55-300mm and a Vivitar 100mm f/3.5 macro prime. I took lots of photos of a USAF 1951 test chart pinned onto my shed door.

A few thoughts ......

* I used live view manual focussing & focus peaking with all three lenses - so, focus is probably OK.

* All three lenses were close, even at 200% zoom. I would probably put the Vivitar 100mm prime just into third place. If I didn't quite nail focus and the prime was even slightly off, it could easily have made it into first place.

* The DA 55-300mm and M75-150 were very close indeed. The 55-300mm perhaps very slightly shading it - but I doubt that there would be any noticeable difference in real world pictures. I agree that the M75-150mm generates just a little blue/purple fringing.

The bottom line is that the DA 55-300mm stays in my camera bag. So also does the 100mm prime (coz its the only macro lens I have). I still think the M75-150mm is a wonderful lens, but for now it stays in reserve - maybe I need a bigger camera bag (and a wheelbarrow!)

Andrew
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Last Edited by andrewk on 24/07/2014 - 15:04

McGregNi

Link Posted 24/07/2014 - 20:01
frob wrote:
Really like these McGreg- No1 is so well balanced and IMO the best of the set. I have and use both of these lenses. The 75-150 is so good at around its minimum focus distance when I get it right, and the 18-55 WR always surprises me. As a novice the most frustrating part of using the 75-150 is the not having a record of the f stop which is the reason I was tempted to lash out on an the 35mm 2.8 ltd. So far it has really impressed me, but the 75-150 has a quality I find it hard to define.
Do you have a way of remembering your fstop with manual lenses- there must be a simple way.
Regards, Rob.

edit. The clarity in the flower 'portraits' is excellent, but IMO the composition is lacking. Don't ask me how, it's a 'feel' thing

Thanks Rob, you can see the similarity to your recent posted shot ... Its become a sort of 'thing' for me now to go out with just 1 or two lenses and work them (or it) really hard. This applies mainly in locations that I know I'll get back to repeatedly. A different lens gives a new perspective each time.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 24/07/2014 - 20:05
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