Garden insect macros (Image heavy!)

AndrewH
Posted 03/07/2014 - 21:37 Link
I've continued my macro learning experience this afternoon, using the K5iiS with a diffused flash (either AF200S or camera's own) and 50mm lens with manual extension tubes. Using the flash allowed me to stop down lens and increase DOF - something I knew I needed to try! The camera was set to manual, as was the focussing. C&C more than welcome as there's no better way of learning!

Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image


Comment Image
davidstorm
Posted 03/07/2014 - 23:30 - Helpful Comment Link
You've chosen a difficult subject here Andrew, Bees are just about the busiest insects in the garden and move so quickly. I would recommend trying some slower moving stuff first and concentrate on the following:

- Composition

- Exposure

- Focussing Accuracy (moving your body and the camera is often the best approach, rather than using the focussing ring on the lens)

- Lighting - you need a more diffused light source as the flash on these is a bit harsh

I know you've been trying out smaller apertures to increase the DOF and this is evident here, but if anything there's too much DOF in these as the background has not blurred out, which makes it a bit distracting. Macro is one of the hardest photography disciplines, not only because of the difficulty in getting sharp, well exposed images, but also because it's hard to get composition and personality into the shots. This is something I work very hard to try and achieve, but I end up throwing away most of my images as they just aren't good enough. Here's one I took last year with a very similar setup to the one you have used, except there was no flash:

Comment Image


I would recommend also that you have a look at the work of Charlotte Fabian (charlotteF) and darkskies, two of the members on here who have posted some cracking macro images.

Regards
David
Flickr

Nicola's Apartments, Kassiopi, Corfu

Some cameras, some lenses, some bits 'n' bobs
Edited by davidstorm: 03/07/2014 - 23:50
AndrewH
Posted 03/07/2014 - 23:39 Link
Thanks for your constructive comments, David, they are most welcome! Bees was all I had this afternoon apart from a couple of hoverflies, and yes they certainly made me work hard. I probably have got too much DOF (from one extreme to the other), but as you say practice will help! I was focussing mostly through movement, but the wind didn't help as it made the lavender sway - I must choose a stiller day next time!
davidstorm
Posted 03/07/2014 - 23:56 - Helpful Comment Link
The wind is a constant issue - you'll find it's virtually impossible to get a still day outdoors in the UK and even the slightest breeze seems like a gale at high magnifications. Despite this, I love the challenge of taking shots in these conditions, I don't like dead subjects, it must be natural and 'in the wild' for me.

There's no substitute for practice, experience and experimentation, so keep at it and your style will develop as your expertise grows.

Regards
David
Flickr

Nicola's Apartments, Kassiopi, Corfu

Some cameras, some lenses, some bits 'n' bobs
tyronet2000
Posted 04/07/2014 - 07:51 - Helpful Comment Link
Not a bad start and with time I'm sure you will improve.

You've listed all the reasons why I've more or less given up on macro David
Regards
Stan

PPG
charlottef
Posted 04/07/2014 - 23:38 - Helpful Comment Link
A lot better than my first attempts.

Choose a cloudy sunny day - when the sun goes behind a cloud the insects slow down and you don't get the nasty harsh light.

Keep at it - when you get 'the shot' it makes all the hard work worthwhile. Promise.
AndrewH
Posted 04/07/2014 - 23:54 Link
Thank you, Charlotte & Stan. I fully intend to persevere with this, and am looking forward to more experiments and learning from others whose images I aspire to get something vaguely close to!
charlottef
Posted 05/07/2014 - 00:01 - Helpful Comment Link
I won't post images on here as it's your thread but take a look at My PPG
You may or may not find it useful - if I can help you with anything then just send me a pm - as I don't post on here very often.
AndrewH
Posted 05/07/2014 - 22:08 Link
Errr...all I can say, Charlotte, is...wow! Now that's given me something to aim for, along with David's as well...
Stuey
Posted 06/07/2014 - 13:46 Link
Some nice images - great early attempt

I haven't tried this type of thing for a while - perhaps I should
K10D, K5 plus plenty of clueless enthusiasm.

My Flickr site link
McGregNi
Posted 06/07/2014 - 20:52 Link
I appreciate you showing these, even as a 'work in progress ' so to speak. It has invited some good critical commentary and general all-round good advice for this genre and shooting conditions, and that's good for us all.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
AndrewH
Posted 06/07/2014 - 21:34 Link
Stuey wrote:
Some nice images - great early attempt
I haven't tried this type of thing for a while - perhaps I should
Thank you!

McGregNi wrote:
I appreciate you showing these, even as a 'work in progress ' so to speak. It has invited some good critical commentary and general all-round good advice for this genre and shooting conditions, and that's good for us all.
And thank you too - I haven't really done too much of this yet. My first efforts stuggled with lighting/DOF, these corrected both to some degree, and I've received some really helpful advice from others who have produced some stunning images. I think the best bit of advice was 'stick at it'...I will practice some more and see how I get on!

Add Comment

To leave a comment - Log in to Pentax User or create a new account.



Proudly supporting Pentax User

Samsung Logo Asahi Pentax Logo