Full Frame teaser - Spring 2016!

ilovesaabs
Posted 19/09/2015 - 11:57 Link
50mpCMOS wrote:
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Come on everyone, don't be fooled by the images...it's the same 3d-printed facsimile that was shown a few months ago. So what if you can see the mount? they have to find a way of attaching the lens,....
It's not being fooled by the images. DOZENS of people have already personally handled it at a type of trade show in North america many months ago, earlier this year. As somewhat selectively shown (by lighting) and also inferred by these released photographs, but more so as witnessed by those dozens of people... The lenses did come on and off the prototype Pentax full-frame body. There was a full mirror box assembly located within, one could also see into where the sensor should have been located. The dials and levels on the camera were as functional as a non battery version basically almost completely similar to an existing Pentax K3, but without the color correcting flash.

There are much better images of this prototype camera already out there from most every angle one could possibly imagine.

Such as: Base of camera showing tripod connection, battery lid (fully functional), including but not fully showing some of the connections for what appears to be a different battery grip.


As I've clearly stated well before this announcement came out. The world will not see a sales floor ready model Pentax full-frame camera body until at least February 25th next year. At that exact time everyone will have already been shown each and every spec for the camera body. As for the EXACT release date, it would also depend upon which sensor they elect to use.

As for sensor... Sure I've heard the statements (actually literally nothing more than rumors) that a Sony full-frame sensor will be used. IF Pentax remains on that path, the price point would be quite reasonable. But also noting more recent developments in sensor technology... That Pentax could very well be considering a 50+ mp sensor, much like what is out for (presently) at least two Canon model full-frame cameras, and also quite similar to what will soon be released Nikon flagship models.
I don't go with what DOZENS of people said, I don't know why you emphasize DOZENS - but if DOZENS of people told you they saw aliens in the same room would you believe it? For a long time Pentax showcased a digital FF in a body that was first revealed around 2001, based on the MZ-S body, it wasn't named but it as referred to as MZ-D - it's appeared more recently as a K-1.

I also don't go with rumours either - I will believe what I see when I see the camera for sale....but I am not convinced by any of the images.. for the camera to sell in good numbers it has to have the same sleek lines as the D610 and 6D, and not resemble the 67
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Algernon
Posted 19/09/2015 - 12:05 Link
Does Spring mean 1st April 2016

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pezking
Posted 19/09/2015 - 12:11 Link
McGregNi wrote:
There's a world of Pentax Users out there ... They just don't want to talk about it!
Probably too busy photographing rather than navelgazing!
McGregNi
Posted 19/09/2015 - 12:26 Link
It's possible I suppose that they arrange meetings in secret places, avoiding any online references that could spread too easily, and bring along their FF compatible lenses to compare whilst discussing the reasons for the FF release time-frame.
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ilovesaabs
Posted 19/09/2015 - 12:48 Link
McGregNi wrote:
It's possible I suppose that they arrange meetings in secret places, avoiding any online references that could spread too easily, and bring along their FF compatible lenses to compare whilst discussing the reasons for the FF release time-frame.
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stu62
Posted 19/09/2015 - 13:49 Link
the big money spiner is there and they cant be bothered to release it
50mpCMOS
Posted 19/09/2015 - 13:59 Link
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I don't go with what DOZENS of people said, I don't know why you emphasize DOZENS - but if DOZENS of people told you they saw aliens in the same room would you believe it?
Except that... This was by Pentax reps. The same Pentax display area where the Pentax full-frame body was seen by the general public, but under glass. During that time at least two dozen people were permitted hand inspection of the item.

I'm sure there is a 3d printed representation already out there somewhere, but... At that trade show (and by Pentax reps) it was an actual Pentax full-frame prototype, not the 3d printed model. Everything about the camera was real except that it did not have the sensor.


Also, let's assume the release date for the Pentax full-frame body is between February 25th (as I've already clearly stated MONTHS ago) or perhaps even as far as what is being stated as Spring 2015 - so let's give them March 25th... Then further along the line prototypes do already exist, perhaps with a much different sensor to be easily switched out until the final prototype appears.

When it does come time that the three month out barrier is reached... I assure we'll be reading an official spec sheet about it from Pentax, it will also be a not much different body style from the exact prototype as already witnessed - sure everything is subject to change.

Might I also add in... Take a guess where the Pentax full-frame will be being built at? Also, no matter which sensor is used, the "assembly line" (for lack of a better terminology) will also show as being ramped up for the initial Pentax full-frame release.

Also interesting that, it would be beyond assumption that... B&H should have an exact release date and specs on the camera rather soon
SteveLedger
Posted 19/09/2015 - 22:14 Link
stu62 wrote:
the big money spiner is there and they cant be bothered to release it
What..!?!?
cabstar
Posted 20/09/2015 - 02:57 Link
SteveLedger wrote:
Whatever it eventually is, it won't be for everyone. Some want superior low-light performance while some want massive resolving power for landscape detail. Personally I'm more interested in understanding why people are interested in a FF in the first place. But of course, I'm also curious about the camera when it eventually appears.
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SteveLedger
Posted 20/09/2015 - 03:19 Link
Did I?
stu62
Posted 20/09/2015 - 07:30 Link
SteveLedger wrote:
stu62 wrote:
the big money spiner is there and they cant be bothered to release it
What..!?!?
the 70/200 f2.8
every other major company are now on there mark2 or 3 version and wheres pentax still holding it back
they should have had that lens really when the k10 was released

how many of the pentax owners would have got one in there kit now i would think probably 75% if not more would have one
Edited by stu62: 20/09/2015 - 07:32
SteveLedger
Posted 20/09/2015 - 08:19 Link
Sorry but I really don't understand this mentality that Pentax have to build and sell something because other manufacturers do.
We'd have zero choice if everyone made the same thing now wouldn't we? It simply would not matter which brand we bought because they all make the same things. No-one needs shelves full of lenses, if you can't get by with 4 or 5 then there's a problem somewhere else because it certainly isn't the lens that holding you back.
It's also completely ridiculous to say "they cant be bothered to release it" as if they have spent the R&D time then gone to the trouble of manufacturing at huge costs a lens only to come to the point of saying "Oh**** it, can't be bothered releasing it - bored with it now"
johnriley
Posted 20/09/2015 - 09:05 Link
Quite. In any event, the 70-200mm f/2.8 only really comes into its own when the FF camera is available to use it on.
Best regards, John
ilovesaabs
Posted 20/09/2015 - 12:34 Link
johnriley wrote:
Quite. In any event, the 70-200mm f/2.8 only really comes into its own when the FF camera is available to use it on.
And if you read the reviews of the Canon and Nikon 70-200 f4 variants the verdict is that for a fraction of the price you get a lens that is as good as the 2.8 Mk2s, they only lack the tripod foot (that's where Canikon aftermarket has a laugh) and 2.8....

We already have the magnificent, versatile and wonderful DA*60-250 f4
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johnriley
Posted 20/09/2015 - 13:44 Link
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We already have the magnificent, versatile and wonderful DA*60-250 f4
True. If we really wanted a 70-200mm f/2.8 it's also worth remembering that we already have one. The equivalent lens for APS-C format is 50-135mm.
Best regards, John

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