Focusing screens for K10D
Posted 10/09/2007 - 20:18
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Hi Substitute
I saw this thread on Pentaxforums which might be up your alley ?
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/9624-focusing-screens....
Best regards
Richard
I saw this thread on Pentaxforums which might be up your alley ?
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/9624-focusing-screens....
Best regards
Richard
Posted 11/09/2007 - 13:54
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this is nice
thank you!
thank you!
Posted 11/09/2007 - 23:35
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Hi Substitute
Here's another link:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3198-k10d-viewfinder-q...
Best regards
Richard
Here's another link:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3198-k10d-viewfinder-q...
Best regards
Richard
Posted 13/09/2007 - 06:58
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Well ok but
Does the SB-21, matte with split image center, has an equivalent with the K10D?
Does the SB-21, matte with split image center, has an equivalent with the K10D?
Posted 14/09/2007 - 01:29
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Hi Substitute
I'm afraid I can't help with that one ! I just wish Pentax would produce a conventional focussing-screen with horizontal split prism circle and a microprism collar and make life a bl***dy site easier for all us long-suffering K10D users !!! But that might be expecting too much to ask, wouldn't it ?
Best regards
Richard
I'm afraid I can't help with that one ! I just wish Pentax would produce a conventional focussing-screen with horizontal split prism circle and a microprism collar and make life a bl***dy site easier for all us long-suffering K10D users !!! But that might be expecting too much to ask, wouldn't it ?
Best regards
Richard
Posted 14/09/2007 - 01:43
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Actually you can get a decent split screen replacement for the Pentax DSLRs... think it's a "Katz Eye" screen. http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/cat--Pentax-DSLRs--cat_pentax.html
Though I have a feeling that the split screen will throw off spot-metering somewhat...
Matt
Though I have a feeling that the split screen will throw off spot-metering somewhat...
Matt
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Posted 14/09/2007 - 02:10
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Hi Matt
Yeah and have you seen HOW MUCH these little suckers COST ? Why-the-hell aren't Pentax producing something like this at a REASONABLE price ?
Best regards
Richard
Yeah and have you seen HOW MUCH these little suckers COST ? Why-the-hell aren't Pentax producing something like this at a REASONABLE price ?
Best regards
Richard
Posted 14/09/2007 - 06:26
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Yes, I have seen, and to be honest I reckon that's a fair price given that they are built to order and are not going to be exactly flying off the shelf.
Added to that, the Pentax replacement screens that they do are in the order of £35 (IIRC), so there's not a huge difference.
Finally, as I said, I also seem to remember they play havoc with spot metering, because, you see, the metering is read off the screen. Probably because of that Pentax don't make them... and also the fact that Katz Eyes already do
Matt
Added to that, the Pentax replacement screens that they do are in the order of £35 (IIRC), so there's not a huge difference.
Finally, as I said, I also seem to remember they play havoc with spot metering, because, you see, the metering is read off the screen. Probably because of that Pentax don't make them... and also the fact that Katz Eyes already do
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Spot Metering Mode: Our testing showed spot metering mode to be within factory tolerance for all AF lenses having a maximum aperture of f2.0 or larger (lower f number). Lenses having a maximum aperture smaller than f2.0 (lager f number) will show a significant shift toward increased exposure, with the shift increasing for lenses with smaller maximum apertures. Spot metering mode is NOT RECOMMENDED when using a split prism focusing screen with lenses slower than f2.0. However, if spot mode must be used, it is strongly advised to first take a test shot, check the histogram, and adjust exposure compensation as required.
There's a few Katz Eye users on the forum here and they've given glowing reports, even considering the price Spot Metering Mode: Our testing showed spot metering mode to be within factory tolerance for all AF lenses having a maximum aperture of f2.0 or larger (lower f number). Lenses having a maximum aperture smaller than f2.0 (lager f number) will show a significant shift toward increased exposure, with the shift increasing for lenses with smaller maximum apertures. Spot metering mode is NOT RECOMMENDED when using a split prism focusing screen with lenses slower than f2.0. However, if spot mode must be used, it is strongly advised to first take a test shot, check the histogram, and adjust exposure compensation as required.
Matt
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Posted 14/09/2007 - 13:19
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Yes, I have seen, and to be honest I reckon that's a fair price given that they are built to order and are not going to be exactly flying off the shelf.
Added to that, the Pentax replacement screens that they do are in the order of £35 (IIRC), so there's not a huge difference.
Finally, as I said, I also seem to remember they play havoc with spot metering, because, you see, the metering is read off the screen. Probably because of that Pentax don't make them... and also the fact that Katz Eyes already do
Matt
And the fact that KatzEye are suggesting modification to the exposure settings for large aperture lenses is good: you can set up a user exposure mode for the lens you would use, ready for when you use it.
Yes, I have seen, and to be honest I reckon that's a fair price given that they are built to order and are not going to be exactly flying off the shelf.
Added to that, the Pentax replacement screens that they do are in the order of £35 (IIRC), so there's not a huge difference.
Finally, as I said, I also seem to remember they play havoc with spot metering, because, you see, the metering is read off the screen. Probably because of that Pentax don't make them... and also the fact that Katz Eyes already do
Katz Eye website wrote:
Spot Metering Mode: Our testing showed spot metering mode to be within factory tolerance for all AF lenses having a maximum aperture of f2.0 or larger (lower f number). Lenses having a maximum aperture smaller than f2.0 (lager f number) will show a significant shift toward increased exposure, with the shift increasing for lenses with smaller maximum apertures. Spot metering mode is NOT RECOMMENDED when using a split prism focusing screen with lenses slower than f2.0. However, if spot mode must be used, it is strongly advised to first take a test shot, check the histogram, and adjust exposure compensation as required.
There's a few Katz Eye users on the forum here and they've given glowing reports, even considering the price Spot Metering Mode: Our testing showed spot metering mode to be within factory tolerance for all AF lenses having a maximum aperture of f2.0 or larger (lower f number). Lenses having a maximum aperture smaller than f2.0 (lager f number) will show a significant shift toward increased exposure, with the shift increasing for lenses with smaller maximum apertures. Spot metering mode is NOT RECOMMENDED when using a split prism focusing screen with lenses slower than f2.0. However, if spot mode must be used, it is strongly advised to first take a test shot, check the histogram, and adjust exposure compensation as required.
Matt
Owned: MX (bought 1980), ME Super, Super A, Optio S4, Espio 120SW (and standby Espio 105SW), Stereo (3D) adaptor, 35-105mm, 70-210mm, 50/1.4, AF200S, AF200T, AF280T.
Posted 15/09/2007 - 08:00
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I new I shouldn't have trade my Hexar RF for a Pentax and sold all my Nikon gear....
I knew it, I wanted to try but all I have encountered is disappointement.
Decent lenses are way too expensive and rare.
ANd now the focusing screens issue...
Frankly I don't see how they can survive!
I knew it, I wanted to try but all I have encountered is disappointement.
Decent lenses are way too expensive and rare.
ANd now the focusing screens issue...
Frankly I don't see how they can survive!
Posted 15/09/2007 - 10:15
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Okay, so sell your K10D, buy yourself a D200 and some 'decent' lenses, oh and the split prism screen. I think you'll find that a much cheaper option.
Or you could just spend £50 on the Kats-eye one for your K10D.
As far as 'decent lenses' being 'way too expensive', check out the price of Canon L series lenses, some might consider those the nearest comparison to Pentax Limited (although plenty would disagree, like chalk and cheese really). Or there's the FA50mm f/1.4, which is about £100 cheaper than the Canon equivalent...
Dan
Or you could just spend £50 on the Kats-eye one for your K10D.
As far as 'decent lenses' being 'way too expensive', check out the price of Canon L series lenses, some might consider those the nearest comparison to Pentax Limited (although plenty would disagree, like chalk and cheese really). Or there's the FA50mm f/1.4, which is about £100 cheaper than the Canon equivalent...
Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...
Posted 15/09/2007 - 10:48
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I new I shouldn't have trade my Hexar RF for a Pentax and sold all my Nikon gear....
I knew it, I wanted to try but all I have encountered is disappointement.
Decent lenses are way too expensive and rare.
ANd now the focusing screens issue...
Frankly I don't see how they can survive!
I feel for you.I new I shouldn't have trade my Hexar RF for a Pentax and sold all my Nikon gear....
I knew it, I wanted to try but all I have encountered is disappointement.
Decent lenses are way too expensive and rare.
ANd now the focusing screens issue...
Frankly I don't see how they can survive!
Here's my advice:
Part 1
Sell the K10D, and all your lenses.
Buy a shedload of Canon lenses from 1975.
Buy a modern Canon camera.
Try and fit the lenses.
Check the prices of modern Canon lenses with shake reduction.
Post to a Canon newsgroup saying how disappointed you are.
Part 2
Sell the Canon, and all your lenses.
Buy a shedload of Nikon lenses from 1975.
Buy a modern Nikon camera.
Try and fit the lenses.
Check the prices of modern Nikon lenses with shake reduction.
Post to a Nikon newsgroup saying how disappointed you are.
Part 3
Sell the Nikon, and all your lenses.
Buy a shedload of Pentax lenses from 1975.
Buy a Pentax K100D camera.
Try and fit the lenses.
Post to this newsgroup saying how happy you are.
Part 4
Sell the K100D, but keep all your lenses.
Buy a Pentax K10D, plus a Katz screen for fifty bucks
Wonder why you didn't do this in the first place.
Moral: Do your research and be realistic.
G
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Posted 15/09/2007 - 10:57
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the old nikkon lenses fit the new nikkon they havnt change there mount since production and youll find they are proberly better
Cheers Shane
Posted 15/09/2007 - 11:05
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the old nikkon lenses fit the new nikkon they havnt change there mount
Check your facts:the old nikkon lenses fit the new nikkon they havnt change there mount
"The original F-mount appeared in 1959, and lenses that were produced from then until about 1979 are usually referred to as Pre-AI. These lenses are dangerous on current Nikon bodies. With the exception of a modified F5 and the D40/D40x, mounting one of these lenses on your new Nikon will result in damage, so don't even try it. "
http://www.bythom.com/lensacronyms.htm
G
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19 years
As I love synthesis, I'd like one to be made on various focusing screens available for the K10D.
Needless to say this is encouraged by my using only manual lenses on the k10D and by my despair due to the poor quality (for my use) of the standard focusing screen.
So here we go:
which focusing screens are compatible with the k10D? I mean what references among the ones listed there http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/focusing/screens/index.html
if any?
Cheers