First quarter moon

Fquesnel
Posted 25/01/2010 - 02:23 Link
I'm fiddling with paint shop pro and I think I'm getting somewhere. Initial full frame:

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And after sharpening and reducing noise with Paint Shop Pro. I've also added a mask to enlarge de frame:

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Pentax K-x with SkyWatcher 127 mm telescope (1500 mm f/11.8 )
1/200s, iso 800

The sharpening produced an unpleasant bright rim on the right edge of the moon. Is there a way to remove it?
Francois Quesnel
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i-Berg
Posted 25/01/2010 - 03:11 Link
Bon soir Francois,

A couple of things that may work for you:
- Shoot in RAW (DNG works fine)
- Do as much of your post-processing in RAW format, before you convert to jpg.
- Do the sharpening as the very last step in your RAW post-processing, before you convert the image to jpg
- If you wish to shoot in jpg, do the sharpening last anyway!
- With sharpening as with most things, there's no such thing as a free lunch : expect to make value judgments about tradeoffs between increasingly visible artefacts and increases in sharpness

With this particular image, to eliminate the sharpening artefacts that have appeared as a halo on the bright edge, you may have to experiment with a slightly reduced amount of sharpening.

I have not used PSP, so cannot comment on what tools you may want to use to achieve this (ie, amount, radius, masking and detail etc).

Your work on the image has certainly pulled out the detail and contours on the moon's surface! And the additional space around it works for me too.
thoughton
Posted 25/01/2010 - 09:35 Link
Looks fantastic to me! Yes the sharpening is strong, but not unusually so for a moon shot.

I don't know if I completely agree with i-Berg about the white halo. I get the same white rim/halo in most (all?) of my moon shots, before I've done any PP at all. It is pale grey before PP, but goes white once you up the contrast. I'm not sure if reducing the sharpening will have any effect on it.

Here's one I took a few days ago (with a Tamron 500mm mirror), showing the same halo. Mine is much noisier than yours!:
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Tim
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nass
Posted 25/01/2010 - 15:34 Link
I was under the impression that the white halo is due to CA - I find I can usually tone it down a little by fiddling with the CA parameter in the RAW
... just another middle-aged guy with a hobby. I have an extreme macro learning site at extreme-macro.co.uk - Pentax-centric, your feedback and comments would be appreciated!
Fquesnel
Posted 25/01/2010 - 17:30 Link
Thanks i-Berg for the advice. I really need to know what you experienced folks do! But since sharpening increases noise a bit isn't it better to reduce the noise after?
Thoughton, nice picture what were the settings?
nass, being new to digital photography I don't know what ca is, can you light my lantern please. In my picture the halo appeared right after sharpening so I'm pretty sure that's where it's from.

Best regards to you all.
Francois Quesnel
When taking pictures always think of those who will see them... a hundred years from now!

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thoughton
Posted 26/01/2010 - 00:32 Link
My shot was around 1/160 I think, the lens is a fixed f8. ISO 250 to boost the shutter speed a bit (it was handheld propped against a fence).

Regarding noise reduciton I seem to get my best results with just sharpening, no NR. The NR after sharpening just makes it soft again, better I think just to do less sharpening to begin with. Mind you I am fooling around with a cheap mirror lens so the IQ isn't fantastic to begin with.
Tim
AF - Pentax K5, Sigma 10-20/4-5.6, Tamron 17-50/2.8, Sigma 30/1.4, Sigma 70-200/2.8, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
MF - Vivitar CF 28/2.8, Tamron AD2 90/2.5, MTO 1000/11
Stuff - Metz 58 AF1, Cactus v4, Nikon SB24, Raynox 150, Sigma 1.4x TC, Sigma 2x TC, Kenko 2x macro TC, Redsnapper 283 tripod, iMac 27”, Macbook Pro 17”, iPad, iPhone 3G
FlickrFluidrPPGStreetPortfolio site
Feel free to edit any of my posted photos! If I post a photo for critique, I want brutal honesty. If you don't like it, please say so and tell me why!

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