Fire and Iron
Posted 30/12/2008 - 21:37
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I like the shot 'cos the flying sparks make it quite dynamic, I don't think there's anything to the right of the fire that adds to the appeal though. I might be tempted to go for a squarer crop and lose the lot - especially the Fire Exit sign which keeps drawing my eye...
Joining the Q
Posted 30/12/2008 - 21:41
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LOL ahh yes the Fire exit sign I was meaning to clone that out but forgot.
I took lots of variations on this shot so will mess about some more and I take your point about right of the flames, will try a crop.
What you think about the soft focus on the face? Does it ruin it?
I took lots of variations on this shot so will mess about some more and I take your point about right of the flames, will try a crop.
What you think about the soft focus on the face? Does it ruin it?
Posted 30/12/2008 - 21:45
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Not for me - it gives a sense of movement which is all helping towards that feeling of dynamism which I like. If he'd been static then the sparks would have looked unconvincing so it's all good IMO.
Joining the Q
Posted 30/12/2008 - 22:27
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The light looks natural, which is good, and the movement in the subject is consistent with what we might expect, also good. I don't think you should clone out the Fire Exit sign, just crop the right hand side of the image. This will fully concentrate our attention on the subject.
Very nice sparks flying, which is the major strength of this IMHO.
Very nice sparks flying, which is the major strength of this IMHO.
Best regards, John
Posted 30/12/2008 - 22:57
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I agree with the others, go for a square crop and it'll look great.
Cheers, Kris.
Cheers, Kris.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
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It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 31/12/2008 - 00:12
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The problem with just chopping off the right side is that you'll place the figure right in the middle of the frame, which in my opinion will weaken he composition.
I think this image is a good candidate for a black and white conversion. This will help simplify the image. I'd also think about slightly vignetting the shot and perhaps blurring the background slightly using the lens blur filter in photoshop.
Toby
I think this image is a good candidate for a black and white conversion. This will help simplify the image. I'd also think about slightly vignetting the shot and perhaps blurring the background slightly using the lens blur filter in photoshop.
Toby
Posted 31/12/2008 - 00:54
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The shutter speed is good I think, because it has captured nice long spark trails. Obviously a little motion blur to the face is going to detract a little.
I realise you've lit the scene, but I think that these shots are nicer alot darker, where the light sources seem to be the fire & iron. This helps concentrate the eye on the key elements of the scene. (face, iron, fire) I had a very quick play in photoshop & liked a much darker version with the white wall area to the right well burnt to stop distracting the eye. This was just using the "variations" option, I think with proper curves adjustment it could be even better. Give it a try.
I realise you've lit the scene, but I think that these shots are nicer alot darker, where the light sources seem to be the fire & iron. This helps concentrate the eye on the key elements of the scene. (face, iron, fire) I had a very quick play in photoshop & liked a much darker version with the white wall area to the right well burnt to stop distracting the eye. This was just using the "variations" option, I think with proper curves adjustment it could be even better. Give it a try.
Posted 31/12/2008 - 02:14
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tobyed wrote:
The problem with just chopping off the right side is that you'll place the figure right in the middle of the frame, which in my opinion will weaken he composition.
I think this image is a good candidate for a black and white conversion. This will help simplify the image. I'd also think about slightly vignetting the shot and perhaps blurring the background slightly using the lens blur filter in photoshop.
Toby
A square format is about the only format where you can center just about anything and it works.
The problem with just chopping off the right side is that you'll place the figure right in the middle of the frame, which in my opinion will weaken he composition.
I think this image is a good candidate for a black and white conversion. This will help simplify the image. I'd also think about slightly vignetting the shot and perhaps blurring the background slightly using the lens blur filter in photoshop.
Toby
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Posted 31/12/2008 - 10:22
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RR
I have many exposures of this and the original idea was to be a lot darker with the effect to be lit by the fire glow. I will take another look at that and maybe re-post
Thanks
Steve
I have many exposures of this and the original idea was to be a lot darker with the effect to be lit by the fire glow. I will take another look at that and maybe re-post
Thanks
Steve
Posted 31/12/2008 - 10:28
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pentaxian450 wrote:
A square format is about the only format where you can center just about anything and it works.
I disagree, but I guess that's just my opinion. You can use the rule of thirds within a square frame to dramatic effect. The figure faces slightly towards the right so usually he would be positioned more towards the left side (in more traditionally composed images). If you just crop off the right side, the image doesn't balance. Taking a little of both sides to form a 4x5 ratio crop, leaving the figure near to a third of the way in would be my preference.A square format is about the only format where you can center just about anything and it works.
Toby
Posted 31/12/2008 - 11:54
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I have had a bit of a play in PS and here are two crops with slightl differences, both have been adjusted in curves and a little shadow/highlights and finally a bit of unsharp mask. I think I may have oversharpened the second
[IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/Hannabella/squarecrop.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/Hannabella/squarecrop2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/Hannabella/squarecrop.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/Hannabella/squarecrop2.jpg[/IMG]
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The face is a bit soft on the focus and I have bodged a clone-out of a distracting window to the right of the shot in a hurry, but in general do you reckon the shotis acceptable or do I eed to sharpen up the features?
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