File size in photoshop elements

FAT8BIKER
Posted 13/12/2011 - 14:02 Link
Hi all
Being a complete novice at photoshop can any body exlpain why a file of a print at 2400DPI is to large to be opened in elements 8 but i can open it in Picasa and windows pictures.
When i say novice a meen a complete dunb dumb.:::
Thanks
Dave
johnriley
Posted 13/12/2011 - 14:09 - Helpful Comment Link
Common confusion exists, but here goes: Images on the computer and in Photoshop are measured in ppi (pixels per inch) and this should be 72ppi for screen and web and 300ppi for prints, unless your commercial printer requires a different resolution.

Printers lay down dots of ink in dpi (dots per inch) and a printer resolution might well be 1400dpi or 2880dpi or similar large amounts.

If you actually made an image in Photoshop at 2400ppi it would be an immense file and would take ages to load, clog up the memory and might not seem to load at all. If anyone every finds a file oddly large, then check you are sizing in ppi and not ppcm (pixels per inch not pixels per cm!) as it makes a bit of a difference.
Best regards, John
Edited by johnriley: 13/12/2011 - 14:09
FAT8BIKER
Posted 13/12/2011 - 14:26 Link
johnriley wrote:
Common confusion exists, but here goes: Images on the computer and in Photoshop are measured in ppi (pixels per inch) and this should be 72ppi for screen and web and 300ppi for prints, unless your commercial printer requires a different resolution.

Printers lay down dots of ink in dpi (dots per inch) and a printer resolution might well be 1400dpi or 2880dpi or similar large amounts.

If you actually made an image in Photoshop at 2400ppi it would be an immense file and would take ages to load, clog up the memory and might not seem to load at all. If anyone every finds a file oddly large, then check you are sizing in ppi and not ppcm (pixels per inch not pixels per cm!) as it makes a bit of a difference.
Thanks John i think but i did scan the same print at 1200DPI and that was fine. I am not sure about ppi/ppcm but i will check next time i scan.
Regards Dave
steven9761
Posted 13/12/2011 - 15:03 Link
BIKER - how big is the file you're trying to open (Mb's)..? Try opening the file in another program (Paint.net, for example), then resize the CANVAS SIZE. Usually, a jpeg measuring 4000 x 3000 pixels will have a canvas size of around 40 inches x 30 inches (or thereabouts) at 72dpi. Typically, a jpeg as I described here would be around 3-4Mb in size, but if it's the dpi in your image that measures 2400 dpi, this would make the file size something like 120-150 Mb!!
spinno
Posted 13/12/2011 - 16:41 Link
FAT8BIKER wrote:
Hi all
Being a complete novice at photoshop can any body exlpain why a file of a print at 2400DPI is to large to be opened in elements 8 but i can open it in Picasa and windows pictures.
When i say novice a meen a complete dunb dumb.:::
Thanks
Dave
how big was the print.
When scanning prints I usually go for about 800 ppi max otherwise there's a lot of information that isn't really useful (polite way of saying too much carp!)
David
steven9761
Posted 13/12/2011 - 16:58 Link
An alternative to resizing the canvas would be to open this file in Picasa/Windows Pictures (I'm assuming you mean Windows Live Photo Gallery?), and look for RESIZE in whichever program. You can either:

(A) change the pixel size (from 4000 x 3000 to 600 x 400, for example)
(B) change the canvas size (generally, this "crops" the image)
(C) change the DPI's (if it currently reads 2400dpi, as you suggest, change it to 72/96dpi instead)

Personally, I'd recommend option C.
johnriley
Posted 13/12/2011 - 17:00 Link
Be careful what you use to resize. There are different methods and sampling so for maximum quality use Photoshop and don't let anything else mess with the size of your images.
Best regards, John
FAT8BIKER
Posted 16/12/2011 - 22:25 Link
Thanks all
I will get round to trying all you have advised.
I am now"t but a novice at this.
Many thanks for your time and expertise.
Happy christmas and a snappy new year to every body.
Regards Dave:

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