Exact crop factor of K3 Sensor.
Posted 06/02/2014 - 16:45
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Is it just the aspect ratio you want or the exact mm size?
The aspect ratio is the pixel size of the RAW files.
6016w x 4000h = 3.008:2 or 1.504x
The spec. also mentions 16:9 which I presume is a crop.
EDIT: If you mean compared to 35mm FF it's
36/23.5 = 1.532 OR 24/15.6 = 1.538 based on height
which is probably more accurate because 35mm was
usually cropped on the length when printing.
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The aspect ratio is the pixel size of the RAW files.
6016w x 4000h = 3.008:2 or 1.504x
The spec. also mentions 16:9 which I presume is a crop.
EDIT: If you mean compared to 35mm FF it's
36/23.5 = 1.532 OR 24/15.6 = 1.538 based on height
which is probably more accurate because 35mm was
usually cropped on the length when printing.
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Posted 06/02/2014 - 18:25
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I always thought the crop factor was calculated as the diagonal of a 36 X 24mm frame ie 43.2666mm approx divided by the diagonal of the particular sensor you are comparing (APS-C 23.7 X 15.7mm is 28.4285mm approx). If so the answer is :-
1.5264180559885595966299171925376
Hope that's exact enough
1.5264180559885595966299171925376
Hope that's exact enough
Jamie
Posted 06/02/2014 - 19:02
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jamieallan wrote:
I always thought the crop factor was calculated as the diagonal of a 36 X 24mm frame ie 43.2666mm approx divided by the diagonal of the particular sensor you are comparing (APS-C 23.7 X 15.7mm is 28.4285mm approx). If so the answer is :-
1.5264180559885595966299171925376
Hope that's exact enough
You need to check your maths:I always thought the crop factor was calculated as the diagonal of a 36 X 24mm frame ie 43.2666mm approx divided by the diagonal of the particular sensor you are comparing (APS-C 23.7 X 15.7mm is 28.4285mm approx). If so the answer is :-
1.5264180559885595966299171925376
Hope that's exact enough
1.521944700786210
Posted 06/02/2014 - 19:09
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He He
I thought this would happen.
Anything official anywhere?
I thought this would happen.
Anything official anywhere?
Cheers Jules...
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Posted 06/02/2014 - 19:10
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Jules
http://petapixel.com/2013/06/15/a-mathematical-look-at-focal-length-and-crop-fac...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor
http://petapixel.com/2013/06/15/a-mathematical-look-at-focal-length-and-crop-fac...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_factor
Jamie
Posted 06/02/2014 - 20:18
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Resd that and that's what confused me...
Cheers Jules...
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Posted 06/02/2014 - 21:28
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Jules,
I think they use the diagonal measurement due to a throw back to the original TV Cathode Ray Tube days. As the original tube faces were circular the measurement of screen size was the diagonal of the largest 4:3 aspect rectangle that could be made from the tube face. It doesn't really make any sense these days but they've stuck with it. It would be far better to use the total area of the sensor in my view. The graphic in this I think is a far better illustration of sensor size
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SensorSizes.svg
I think they use the diagonal measurement due to a throw back to the original TV Cathode Ray Tube days. As the original tube faces were circular the measurement of screen size was the diagonal of the largest 4:3 aspect rectangle that could be made from the tube face. It doesn't really make any sense these days but they've stuck with it. It would be far better to use the total area of the sensor in my view. The graphic in this I think is a far better illustration of sensor size
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SensorSizes.svg
Jamie
Posted 06/02/2014 - 22:20
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Quote:
It doesn't really make any sense these days but they've stuck with it
Bit like the FF debate then
It doesn't really make any sense these days but they've stuck with it
Cheers
Brian.
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Posted 06/02/2014 - 23:02
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McBrian wrote:
No debate. Some people have them some people don't.Quote:
It doesn't really make any sense these days but they've stuck with it
Bit like the FF debate then It doesn't really make any sense these days but they've stuck with it
Best regards
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Posted 09/02/2014 - 10:38
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I'm very curious as to why you like / need to know the exact crop factor :
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Posted 09/02/2014 - 11:48
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sterretje wrote:
I'm very curious as to why you like / need to know the exact crop factor :
Indeed, I would have thought that 1.5 is near enough for most purposes. Do tell.
I'm very curious as to why you like / need to know the exact crop factor :
Posted 14/02/2014 - 09:08
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I'm totally anal!
THEN NO ONES GIVEN ME A DEFINITIVE ANSWER EITHER WHICH IS DRIVING ME NUTS!
1.52?
THEN NO ONES GIVEN ME A DEFINITIVE ANSWER EITHER WHICH IS DRIVING ME NUTS!
1.52?
Cheers Jules...
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Posted 14/02/2014 - 09:25
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jules wrote:
I'm totally anal!
THEN NO ONES GIVEN ME A DEFINITIVE ANSWER EITHER WHICH IS DRIVING ME NUTS!
1.52?
How many decimal paces do you want?I'm totally anal!
THEN NO ONES GIVEN ME A DEFINITIVE ANSWER EITHER WHICH IS DRIVING ME NUTS!
1.52?
jamieallen gave an answer - but with an incorrect calculation which I corrected. That is assuming the sizes of a 35mm frame at 36x24 and APS-C at 23.7x15.7 are exact and for example an APS-Cis not 23.7003x15.7002
Posted 14/02/2014 - 09:39
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jules wrote:
I'm totally anal!
Lucky for you so are PentaxI'm totally anal!
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I need to know the exact value, my little brain won't wrap itself around that one today.
Got 1.53 in my head but that could be wrong of course...
Ta in advance...
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