Dslr for a newbie
Posted 15/03/2014 - 20:55
Link
K-R every time! Newer, focus points visible, feels nice to handle & use!
K-3 II, K-3 and a K-70 from SRS (having now relegated the K-30 /"K-50" to a backup body), & some Sigma and Pentax lenses (and a lot of old 35mm gear!)
Posted 15/03/2014 - 21:42
Link
My first camera was K-R that I sold a few month ago ... and now, after reading all your suggestions, I will recommend to my friend to buy the "little" Pentak K-r.
PENTAX K-5IIs: DAL 18-55mm WR, DA 50-135mm, DA 55-300, DA 17-70, Tamron Sp 90 2.8 macro
Posted 15/03/2014 - 21:52
Link
Just picked up a K-r today for use as a second body. Great little camera and the ideal Pentax for a novice IMO.
Posted 15/03/2014 - 23:15
Link
Papa, what are some of the things about it that make it ideal for the novice?
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Posted 16/03/2014 - 00:53
Link
I found a K-x (white) for my partner and a K-r for our son, sadly it was taken from him at gunpoint in Mexico recently - guess that says they are in demand!
Both are/were very happy with the cameras, she started with a film ME Super but both had mostly compact digital point and shoot experience. Their photos are excellent, so much better than anything they had taken with p & s, and they enjoy using a viewfinder. Son is now looking for a K-30 or K-50.
The advantage with these, (and the later K-30, K-50, and K-500) is that they offer full automation, scene settings, or full manual control which makes them easy to learn with but still good for snap shots. Best advice would be to try to find someone who will let your friend's daughter try it out.
If she is showing interest in photography, it's probably a good idea to spend less on the camera leaving something for lenses as Mark pointed out - there is always a good selection of inexpensive ones on ebay.
Both are/were very happy with the cameras, she started with a film ME Super but both had mostly compact digital point and shoot experience. Their photos are excellent, so much better than anything they had taken with p & s, and they enjoy using a viewfinder. Son is now looking for a K-30 or K-50.
The advantage with these, (and the later K-30, K-50, and K-500) is that they offer full automation, scene settings, or full manual control which makes them easy to learn with but still good for snap shots. Best advice would be to try to find someone who will let your friend's daughter try it out.
If she is showing interest in photography, it's probably a good idea to spend less on the camera leaving something for lenses as Mark pointed out - there is always a good selection of inexpensive ones on ebay.
Posted 16/03/2014 - 03:00
Link
JonSchick wrote:
Difficult to know without talking to the daughter, but if she's anything like mine, I'd carve out some of that budget for a WiFi card or buy a WiFi enabled camera. Connectivity and sharing photographs is really important to my (17 year old) daughter so a camera that can't do that will be left at home after the novelty has worn off, whereas the cameraphone will be used.
This is described as a "first camera" rather than 'first serious camera" in which case I think some reflection on whether a dSLR is necessarily the right way to go is also worth having. Wildcard...Pentax Q (or micro Four Thirds). Or buy an MX-1 at the really good close out prices they're available for now.
Congrats on thinking outside the box. I would have initially suggested a K-r at the start of this thread but we are assuming she wants a DSLR from the title!Difficult to know without talking to the daughter, but if she's anything like mine, I'd carve out some of that budget for a WiFi card or buy a WiFi enabled camera. Connectivity and sharing photographs is really important to my (17 year old) daughter so a camera that can't do that will be left at home after the novelty has worn off, whereas the cameraphone will be used.
This is described as a "first camera" rather than 'first serious camera" in which case I think some reflection on whether a dSLR is necessarily the right way to go is also worth having. Wildcard...Pentax Q (or micro Four Thirds). Or buy an MX-1 at the really good close out prices they're available for now.
I have recently got an MX-1 and think it could be worth asking the question. It has more portability and a good zoom range with it's purpose built lens. It takes great pics in the "do-it-all-for-you" green setting or you can go fully manual if feeling creative.
Probably worth asking a few more questions of the recipient
K-r if it's defo a DSLR, MX-1 if not.
Steve
Sometimes I'm serious and sometimes not, but I consider sarcasm an artform. Which is it today?
Sometimes I'm serious and sometimes not, but I consider sarcasm an artform. Which is it today?
Posted 16/03/2014 - 07:46
Link
McGregNi wrote:
Papa, what are some of the things about it that make it ideal for the novice?
The price.
Papa, what are some of the things about it that make it ideal for the novice?
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 16/03/2014 - 07:55
Link
McGregNi wrote:
The viewfinder focus indicators are a feature that I believe are important in assessing focus, making focus choices and understanding how the camera is seeing a scene, for any photographer really, but a learning aid for sure.
but by making reference to a 'type' that's a pre-judgement. WSmeggypants wrote:
You're trying to second guess the capabilities and learning ability of someone you don't even know? ....
... IMO I think it's down to budget, which was specified at around £250.
No, that's reading too much into it - none of us here are making such specific personal recommendations. We're all talking about cameras in general in relation to a 'type' of photographer (be that a 'newbie' or 'the likes of' Alan & co). Michael above also referred to such things as lightness and range of colours ... is that not second guessing the needs of someone we don't know as well?You're trying to second guess the capabilities and learning ability of someone you don't even know? ....
... IMO I think it's down to budget, which was specified at around £250.
The viewfinder focus indicators are a feature that I believe are important in assessing focus, making focus choices and understanding how the camera is seeing a scene, for any photographer really, but a learning aid for sure.
I don't believe there is a "type" of noobie. Some people new to photography could get to grips with the features of a Nikon D4 and some would have trouble with even the most basic point and shoot
Th OP asked for a recommendation for a camera around £250. There was no mention of lightness and range of colours.
I just don't think it's fair to second guess that just becuase it's someone's first camera they're intellectually limited in some way.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 16/03/2014 - 09:41
Link
No need to read so much into it. A beginner has a lot to learn, so a camera that's straightforward to use will be very helpful in that early stage. It's not that anyone is intellectually limited, and indeed there was no suggestion made of that, it's more that they don't have any extensive knowledge yet.
Therefore, it's perfectly legitimate to put oneself in their shoes having been asked for a recommendation. And to explain the rationale behind it.
So please don't pick at people's innocent opinions and make them out to be something they are not.
Now, back to topic please.
Therefore, it's perfectly legitimate to put oneself in their shoes having been asked for a recommendation. And to explain the rationale behind it.
So please don't pick at people's innocent opinions and make them out to be something they are not.
Now, back to topic please.
Best regards, John
Posted 16/03/2014 - 12:43
Link
OP, have you seen this complete kit for sale?
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/fs--pentax-k-x-setup-48369
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/fs--pentax-k-x-setup-48369
Posted 16/03/2014 - 15:31
Link
Darkmunk wrote:
OP, have you seen this complete kit for sale?
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/fs--pentax-k-x-setup-48369
Thank you for info ...
OP, have you seen this complete kit for sale?
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/fs--pentax-k-x-setup-48369
PENTAX K-5IIs: DAL 18-55mm WR, DA 50-135mm, DA 55-300, DA 17-70, Tamron Sp 90 2.8 macro
Add Comment
To leave a comment - Log in to Pentax User or create a new account.


5986 posts
14 years
Surrey,
England
You're trying to second guess the capabilities and learning ability of someone you don't even know? ....
... IMO I think it's down to budget, which was specified at around £250.
The viewfinder focus indicators are a feature that I believe are important in assessing focus, making focus choices and understanding how the camera is seeing a scene, for any photographer really, but a learning aid for sure.
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver