dowloading latest firmware for K20d without card reader
Posted 08/03/2012 - 07:45 - Helpful Comment
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Maggi - if it is possible to use your camera as a MASS STORAGE DEVICE when connected to your Mac via cable, install a BLANK memory card, then download the firmware update to the camera as your MSD. This will download the firmware as a zip file, so you will need to browse to your MSD, then extract the .BIN file and the READ ME file back to your Mac. The extracted .BIN file should now be around 8.5Mb (check the file properties). Re-format the SD card in your camera, so that there is nothing on the card, then copy the .BIN file back to the card in the camera (as MSD). You don't need the READ ME file to be copied back across, as it is only the .BIN that contains the update. Once you have done all that, disconnect your camera from your Mac, switch your camera off, and whilst pressing the camera's MENU button, switch the camera on. Your camera should now begin to update the firmware for you. Once the update is complete, format the card once more. You can mow use the card as normal.
It is important to make sure that you have a FULLY-CHARGED BATTERY when you do this.
It is important to make sure that you have a FULLY-CHARGED BATTERY when you do this.
Posted 08/03/2012 - 09:56
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Given the low cost of USB card readers, I am surprised to read of anyone who does not have one.
As steven9761 points out above, anything you do with camera connected to computer via a cable needs a fully charged battery.
To do otherwise is to risk losing data. If that data is an image that you will never be able to get again, then you are into a whole world of hassle trying to recover the image - but a card reader can make this a lot easier.
Geoff (who has several batteries for his K20, and checks the charge regularly - but always uses a card reader)
As steven9761 points out above, anything you do with camera connected to computer via a cable needs a fully charged battery.
To do otherwise is to risk losing data. If that data is an image that you will never be able to get again, then you are into a whole world of hassle trying to recover the image - but a card reader can make this a lot easier.
Geoff (who has several batteries for his K20, and checks the charge regularly - but always uses a card reader)
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Lenses Digital: 50-200, 18-55 KAF: 28-80.
Lenses KA & K: SMC-KA f2.0, SMC-K f1.4, SMC-K f1.7 Tokina KA 28-70 , SMC Pentax 70-210 F4, Sigma KA 75-300 , Hanimex 500mm Mirror, and the Tamron Adaptall-2 stuff.
and then there's all the M42 kit, and the accessories ...
Posted 08/03/2012 - 10:01
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DoctorJeff wrote:
Given the low cost of USB card readers, I am surprised to read of anyone who does not have one.
Given the low cost of USB card readers, I am surprised to read of anyone who does not have one.
Most PC's have them built in now so I'd have thought who really uses them anymore
Posted 08/03/2012 - 11:26
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My MBP has an inbuilt card reader BUT I always use my external / portable card reader - I would really worry if anything went wrong and my card was stuck in the MBP's card reader
let the education continue
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proud owner of a couple of cameras and a few bits and bobs
Posted 08/03/2012 - 12:03
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Thanks for all your comments' I now have a card reader ! But I usually download my pics straight from my camera.
My iMac does not have a built in port for cards.
Maggi
My iMac does not have a built in port for cards.
Maggi
Marmimag
Posted 08/03/2012 - 12:19
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I do not trust card readers. I lost a whole card full of photographs once when I used a card reader - the card was still totally usable once reformatted but the card reader destroyed the contents, and this was one built into the laptop.
I always attach my camera via USB whenever I'm transferring data in either direction. I trust the quality of the one in the camera far more than any others.
Yes, you should make sure the camera has a reasonable charge before copying (and 100% before flashing firmware), but even if the battery were to die it is unlikely you will lose data. This is normally only a problem with the drive to which you are writing the data, not the one from which you are reading it.
I always attach my camera via USB whenever I'm transferring data in either direction. I trust the quality of the one in the camera far more than any others.
Yes, you should make sure the camera has a reasonable charge before copying (and 100% before flashing firmware), but even if the battery were to die it is unlikely you will lose data. This is normally only a problem with the drive to which you are writing the data, not the one from which you are reading it.
Posted 08/03/2012 - 20:06
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My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
Chris R.
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Posted 08/03/2012 - 20:23
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ChrisR wrote:
My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
Chris - yours sounds like a drivers issue. What operating system have you got? SDHC's should normally be picked up by the computer. Have a look under DEVICE DRIVERS, and if you have a little yellow triangle beside anything, right-click it, then select UNINSTALL. Do NOT delete the drivers though! Once you've done that (if you had to in the first instance) reboot your machine with an SDHC card in the pc's card reader slot - it should pick up the reader, then update any firmware that's required to enable the SDHC's to be read/written.
Posted 09/03/2012 - 09:30
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Hi Steven.
May I first thank you for taking the time to post, the information it is appreciated.
The only problem is, I have near to zero computer skills. Don’t really know what device drivers are or how to access them. I am going to get the local computer engineering services to have a look at my machine at some stage as I have (XP, Media Centre), but the media section has not worked for a long time, ( suspect driver issue, as below), I can then ask them to look at this SD/SDHC, reading thing.
Fortunately our local computer engineering services, have very reasonable charges, replaced a power supply to my sisters machine, (home visit, disconnect machine, take to workshop, replace power supply, deliver back, reconnect), labour was under £20.00.
You are completely correct when you say it’s a driver issue, but it’s the dumb driver that sits to the keyboard that’s the big problem.
Thanks again.
Take care.
May I first thank you for taking the time to post, the information it is appreciated.
The only problem is, I have near to zero computer skills. Don’t really know what device drivers are or how to access them. I am going to get the local computer engineering services to have a look at my machine at some stage as I have (XP, Media Centre), but the media section has not worked for a long time, ( suspect driver issue, as below), I can then ask them to look at this SD/SDHC, reading thing.
Fortunately our local computer engineering services, have very reasonable charges, replaced a power supply to my sisters machine, (home visit, disconnect machine, take to workshop, replace power supply, deliver back, reconnect), labour was under £20.00.
You are completely correct when you say it’s a driver issue, but it’s the dumb driver that sits to the keyboard that’s the big problem.
Thanks again.
Take care.
Chris R.
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Posted 09/03/2012 - 09:36
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Chris - if I lived near to you, I'd pop round to sort it for you, but Cornwall's a bit out of my reach. Hope you get it resolved okay though.
Posted 09/03/2012 - 10:26
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steven9761 wrote:
Chris - if I lived near to you, I'd pop round to sort it for you, but Cornwall's a bit out of my reach. Hope you get it resolved okay though.
Chris - if I lived near to you, I'd pop round to sort it for you, but Cornwall's a bit out of my reach. Hope you get it resolved okay though.
Many thanks, for the thought.
It is many miles.
20 miles is a long trip for me.
Not been out of the county for about 14 years.
Take care.
Chris R.
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Posted 09/03/2012 - 12:29
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ChrisR wrote:
My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
May not be a driver problem. I have a device that records photos to a hard disk directly from a memory card inserted into it's card reader, but because of it's age it cannot read SDHC and cannot be upgraded.
SDHC card readers are very cheap. Try 7dayshop > http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=5060&man=0&go=GO&comp=
They're not the only supplier of course.
You simply put your SDHC card into the reader, then plug the reader into a USB port on your computer. Computer will recognise the SDHC reader and allow you to access the files on the card.
Just like using your built-in SD card reader, but using an external one.
Posted 09/03/2012 - 15:26
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JohnX wrote:
May not be a driver problem. I have a device that records photos to a hard disk directly from a memory card inserted into it's card reader, but because of it's age it cannot read SDHC and cannot be upgraded.
SDHC card readers are very cheap. Try 7dayshop > http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=5060&man=0&go=GO&comp=
They're not the only supplier of course.
You simply put your SDHC card into the reader, then plug the reader into a USB port on your computer. Computer will recognise the SDHC reader and allow you to access the files on the card.
Just like using your built-in SD card reader, but using an external one.
ChrisR wrote:
My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
My computer has an SD card slot, but it will not recognise SDHC cards ?, so I have to use a external card reader.
Have always felt uneasy about connecting the camera direct to the computer with a USB cable.
Maybe I am just over cautious, but when I don’t understand, I don’t push my luck.
Take care.
May not be a driver problem. I have a device that records photos to a hard disk directly from a memory card inserted into it's card reader, but because of it's age it cannot read SDHC and cannot be upgraded.
SDHC card readers are very cheap. Try 7dayshop > http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=5060&man=0&go=GO&comp=
They're not the only supplier of course.
You simply put your SDHC card into the reader, then plug the reader into a USB port on your computer. Computer will recognise the SDHC reader and allow you to access the files on the card.
Just like using your built-in SD card reader, but using an external one.
Hi John.
I think a bit of confusion/missed information, has occurred through the posts.
I do have a external card reader that will read (SDHC).
But thank you for your post/information.
I can’t remember where I purchased my reader from, its an Apacer, I know it was not from 7dayshop, but I have used 7day for many items, good prices, with good service.
Thank you again.
Take care.
(Sorry to others this has gone a little off original topic,of downloading firmware).
Chris R.
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