DFA100 WR good or not?

Unlocker
Posted 12/03/2010 - 16:51 Link
johnriley wrote:
We have the FA and D-FA 100mm macro lenses, and in terms of quality there's nothing to choose between them. The limiting factor is our technique.
Thanks John, that'll do for me!

Will be putting the FA in the market place very soon!
Anvh
Posted 12/03/2010 - 17:13 Link
Unlocker wrote:
johnriley wrote:
We have the FA and D-FA 100mm macro lenses, and in terms of quality there's nothing to choose between them. The limiting factor is our technique.
Thanks John, that'll do for me!

Will be putting the FA in the market place very soon!

Danny I've no idea what you read in Johns comment though that make you want to trade.

Macro always fetch good money second hand and the prices have gone up, I think I could sell mine without any or little loss.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Oggy
Posted 12/03/2010 - 23:02 Link
Anvh wrote:
Oggy that not true, you only see it with the bright dics, here see for yourself.
I do not take well to being called a liar Stefan.

I have asked the person who took the pictures for permission to post them here. If he agrees I will do so.
Anvh
Posted 12/03/2010 - 23:33 Link
Sorry Oggy didn't mean to offend you, I'm not so graceful with my words as you guys are. No harm at all intended but would love to see some prove, I hope you can post them because from the comparison that I've seen there is not much between them but would love to have another reason to buy this lens.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Lance B
Posted 13/03/2010 - 00:03 Link
johnriley wrote:
I thought the WR lens had a rounder diaphragm. This would affect the rendering of the out of focus areas.
John, yes you are correct, I forgot about the round diaphragm of the new lens.
Cameras:K-7/K20D/*ist D/K10D
Lenses:DA14 f2.8, A16 f2.8, FA20 f2.8, FA31 f1.8, DA35 f2.8 macro, FA43 f1.9, FA50 f1.4, A50 f1.4, A50 f1.2, FA50 f2.8 macro, DA*55 f1.4, FA77 f1.8, DFA100 f2.8 macro, A100 f2.8, DA*300 f4, FA*300 f4.5, DA10-17 FE, DA12-24 f4, DA*16-50 f2.8, DA17-70 f4, FA*28-70 f2.8, DA*50-135 f2.8, DA*60-250 f4, FA*80-200 f2.8.
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Unlocker
Posted 13/03/2010 - 02:09 Link
Anvh wrote:

Danny I've no idea what you read in Johns comment though that make you want to trade.
I trust his judgement, as I have great respect for him when it comes to Pentax lenses.
Mike-P
Posted 13/03/2010 - 06:24 Link
Anvh wrote:

Danny I've no idea what you read in Johns comment though that make you want to trade.

Since when do we need a good reason to buy a lens?

I find the D-FA 100mm quite flimsy which is why I rarely use it, I wonder if the new W version is better made .. that would be enough for me.

Actually just the fact its a macro lens would probably swing it anyway.
Posted 13/03/2010 - 09:20 Link
At F2.8 there is nothing in it. At F5.6 you can see a more rounded Bokeh with the WR model, but only just.
I suppose it depends on what you are going to use the 100mm for. If you are going to be out and about in all weathers then the WR model is going to be more suitable. Otherwise it might be better to go for the "standard" lens and save money.
In the meantime, I am going to stick with my Sigma 105mm EX Macro.
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Edited by Offertonhatter: 13/03/2010 - 09:22
Anvh
Posted 13/03/2010 - 13:38 Link
Unlocker wrote:
Anvh wrote:

Danny I've no idea what you read in Johns comment though that make you want to trade.
I trust his judgement, as I have great respect for him when it comes to Pentax lenses.
yes me too, John knows a lot about lenses but he said there are the same in quality so that's where my understanding ends.
If it was the DFA WR then of course the build quality is something to upgrade for.

Mike-P wrote:
I find the D-FA 100mm quite flimsy which is why I rarely use it, I wonder if the new W version is better made .. that would be enough for me.
Same here and I've read it's very nice to use the manual focus as well and that also get me tempted, if only the quality of the optics improved a little bit now I find it hard to justify the expense...

Let's hope Oggy has some good comparison photos
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
womble
Posted 13/03/2010 - 15:39 Link
But the WR version has no aperture ring...
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
tcom
Posted 18/03/2010 - 17:05 Link
I do hope Oggy does not mind, I am the one with a few comparison shots between both WR and non WR version of the DFA100.


K-7, f/2.8, 6s, 100iso

DFA 100/2.8 (click on the photo to see it in full res)
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DFA 100/2.8 WR
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I wanted to see the difference due to the rounded aperture blades of the new WR lens. I set the camera to MF, pointed the camera to a few red LEDs and set the focusing ring to about 1m, in order to have the LEDs well out of focus:

K-7, DFA 100/2.8, f/4.5
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K-7, DFA 100/2.8 WR, f/4.5
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Here is an assembled photo showing both lenses side by side. From the build quality and feeling, the DFA 100/2.8 WR is much closer to the DA35/2.8 limited than to the older DFA100/2.8

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Hope it helps...
Dominique

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