Desaturation
Posted 05/09/2009 - 22:05
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Malo1961 wrote:
Hi George,
I started of with IMO, right?
But to answer your question,
Silkypix, PSP 9, LightZone, Bibble 4 with plug-ins from Sean M Puckett, Photoshop from 6.0 up to CS 2. PS Elements from 3.0 to 6.0. LR 1xx and LR 2.4. And several plug-ins from alien skin and Fred Miranda.
And to answer the last part:
Because Lightroom gives you a unbelievable amount of control for each colour channel in a very intuitive way and user interface. Again in my opinion.
Hope it helps,
Martin.
I was seeking information, not arguing!Hi George,
I started of with IMO, right?
But to answer your question,
Silkypix, PSP 9, LightZone, Bibble 4 with plug-ins from Sean M Puckett, Photoshop from 6.0 up to CS 2. PS Elements from 3.0 to 6.0. LR 1xx and LR 2.4. And several plug-ins from alien skin and Fred Miranda.
And to answer the last part:
Because Lightroom gives you a unbelievable amount of control for each colour channel in a very intuitive way and user interface. Again in my opinion.
Hope it helps,
Martin.
Thanks.
G
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Posted 05/09/2009 - 22:13
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mikew wrote:
So hold on is the consensus that the RAW file requires sharpening on conversion and then the processed file is sharpened as a last step?
And also that non destructive desaturatiuon is a better bet than an application at RAW conversion?
Mike
Regarding sharpening: IMO yes.So hold on is the consensus that the RAW file requires sharpening on conversion and then the processed file is sharpened as a last step?
And also that non destructive desaturatiuon is a better bet than an application at RAW conversion?
Mike
Regarding desaturation: Non destructive is done on the raw file.
It is not necessarily better compared to conversion in a pixel editor(like PS)
But in a program like LR it is all done virtually, without the need to convert to a PSD, Tiff or Jpeg which takes up a lot more extra space compared to the few KB xmp sidecar file LR uses to store the data.
Martin.
Posted 05/09/2009 - 22:15
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George Lazarette wrote:
Thanks.
G
My bad....I apologize. Malo1961 wrote:
Hi George,
I started of with IMO, right?
But to answer your question,
Silkypix, PSP 9, LightZone, Bibble 4 with plug-ins from Sean M Puckett, Photoshop from 6.0 up to CS 2. PS Elements from 3.0 to 6.0. LR 1xx and LR 2.4. And several plug-ins from alien skin and Fred Miranda.
And to answer the last part:
Because Lightroom gives you a unbelievable amount of control for each colour channel in a very intuitive way and user interface. Again in my opinion.
Hope it helps,
Martin.
I was seeking information, not arguing!Hi George,
I started of with IMO, right?
But to answer your question,
Silkypix, PSP 9, LightZone, Bibble 4 with plug-ins from Sean M Puckett, Photoshop from 6.0 up to CS 2. PS Elements from 3.0 to 6.0. LR 1xx and LR 2.4. And several plug-ins from alien skin and Fred Miranda.
And to answer the last part:
Because Lightroom gives you a unbelievable amount of control for each colour channel in a very intuitive way and user interface. Again in my opinion.
Hope it helps,
Martin.
Thanks.
G
Martin.
Posted 05/09/2009 - 22:18
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Ah I see what you mean about Lightroom. I hadn't realised that it used the XML file to allow processes to be applied in a non destructive way. I confess I thought it was more a packaging of Photoshop power in a more acceptable format.
The fact I have barely used it shows doesn't it
Mike
The fact I have barely used it shows doesn't it
Mike
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Posted 06/09/2009 - 10:11
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guys, can you elaborate on the
This seems to be something that has come in under the radar for me - I have no idea what you are referring to.
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Both lightroom and CS3 have the ability to click and drag on an area of the image and lighten or darken the underlying colour.
?Both lightroom and CS3 have the ability to click and drag on an area of the image and lighten or darken the underlying colour.
This seems to be something that has come in under the radar for me - I have no idea what you are referring to.
Posted 06/09/2009 - 10:57
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Darkmunk wrote:
guys, can you elaborate on the
This seems to be something that has come in under the radar for me - I have no idea what you are referring to.
Basically you can paint with a -1 exposure or any other value so you can selectively darken or brighten an area.guys, can you elaborate on the
Quote:
Both lightroom and CS3 have the ability to click and drag on an area of the image and lighten or darken the underlying colour.
?Both lightroom and CS3 have the ability to click and drag on an area of the image and lighten or darken the underlying colour.
This seems to be something that has come in under the radar for me - I have no idea what you are referring to.
You can download a 30day trial of Lightroom at Adobe, trying it out is the best way of seeing what it does.
Stefan
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Posted 06/09/2009 - 12:08
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No Stefan, You are explaining about the new brush tool. What Kris and I mean is the Gray scale tab under the Develop Module. And than specific the
TAT or Target Adjustment Tool.
Like this;
Hope it helps,
Martin.
TAT or Target Adjustment Tool.
Like this;
Hope it helps,
Martin.
Posted 06/09/2009 - 12:43
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ah... gotcha.
It's the same name - HSL/Greyscale in CS3.
I'll have a play with that, Thanks.
Funny what you miss when you get stuck in your ways
It's the same name - HSL/Greyscale in CS3.
I'll have a play with that, Thanks.
Funny what you miss when you get stuck in your ways
Posted 06/09/2009 - 12:52
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After much reading and trial & error with sharpening I now use the "capture & output" sharpening method promoted by Bruce Fraser
http://www.creativepro.com/article/out-of-gamut-thoughts-on-a-sharpening-workflo...
I use ACR to add slight capture sharpening and then use the "photokit sharpener" plugin to sharpen after I sized the image for output
I also desaturate colour in ACR, mainly to keep things "in gamut" - I find ACR easier to use for this purpose and it's non-destructive too
Simon
http://www.creativepro.com/article/out-of-gamut-thoughts-on-a-sharpening-workflo...
I use ACR to add slight capture sharpening and then use the "photokit sharpener" plugin to sharpen after I sized the image for output
I also desaturate colour in ACR, mainly to keep things "in gamut" - I find ACR easier to use for this purpose and it's non-destructive too
Simon
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Posted 06/09/2009 - 13:12
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Malo1961 wrote:
No Stefan, You are explaining about the new brush tool. What Kris and I mean is the Gray scale tab under the Develop Module.
Ah thank you Martin didn't knew that, I hardly use B&W so have learned something new today, will try it out No Stefan, You are explaining about the new brush tool. What Kris and I mean is the Gray scale tab under the Develop Module.
btw I love the spooky photo
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Posted 06/09/2009 - 13:57
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simonkit wrote:
I use ACR to add slight capture sharpening and then use the "photokit sharpener" plugin to sharpen after I sized the image for output
Hi Simon,I use ACR to add slight capture sharpening and then use the "photokit sharpener" plugin to sharpen after I sized the image for output
Did you know that Photokit sharpener now has been built in to LR.2.4?
Not as sophisticated of course , but its the same engine. Its explained by Jeff Schewe, on of the founders of Pixel Genius. He does a excellent tutorial with M.H.Reichmann on LR.2.4.
Martin.
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Both lightroom and CS3 have the ability to click and drag on an area of the image and lighten or darken the underlying colour. For example, you can click and drag on blue sky to make it almost black similar to using a red filter on BW film.
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