DA35 f2.4 & extension tubes

gartmore
Posted 04/03/2013 - 12:19 Link
For the recent weekly competition I had intended using the above combination (Jessops tubes with the contacts) but found the lens would not stop down at all. I discovered that with the lens and tube off the camera the actuator arm in the extension tube wouldn't budge at all. With the Pentax F 55mm f1.7 there was no problem at all and I cant see any difference between the two lenses in this respect.

Any ideas?
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Edited by gartmore: 04/03/2013 - 12:21
geordie01
Posted 04/03/2013 - 15:38 Link
Mine will not work either.
Edited by geordie01: 04/03/2013 - 15:38
Posted 04/03/2013 - 16:47 Link
Just tried my DA35 on some vivitar tubes all ok, just plain tubes though no contacts through, still waiting for those to be delivered.
Pint o' rough & a game o' darts anyone
Algernon
Posted 04/03/2013 - 16:57 Link
Possibly the plastic mount... you may have to short
a couple of pins out with silver foil.

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Algi
Edited by Algernon: 04/03/2013 - 16:58
gartmore
Posted 04/03/2013 - 17:25 Link
Algi, it isn't an electrical problem but a mechanical one. The linkage in the tube is just a floating piece of metal that should be pushed up and down by the actuator in the mirror box and then allowing the iris to close to the desired f stop. The linkage in the tube seems to be jamming somewhere with the lens.

I will try some other lenses tomorrow because this is the first time, I think, I've used a DA lens with those tubes.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Algernon
Posted 04/03/2013 - 18:11 Link
Sorry. possibly mechanical, but might need the contacts, which
it seems to have anyway

I've just tried 3 sets of tubes on my DA35 f/2.4 and 2 sets
(Aico and Jessop ) won't even screw on the lens. The camera's
a K-5 and they screw on that OK.

The 3rd set Triplus Pz-AF ( the Rolls-Royce of ET's
with 8 contacts) fit like a glove. Open Ap. Metering works
electrically, so it doesn't need to stop down and I fired
off a shot which was perfectly exposed at f/5.6. So it seems
to be down to the tubes and I'm sure you will need the
scraped contact.

I'm surprised they screwed on in the 1st place

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Algi
gartmore
Posted 04/03/2013 - 18:31 Link
Contact scraped ages ago, the curiosity is that they work perfectly with the 55 but jam with the 35. As far as fitting onto the camera and lens in the bayonet sense there is no problem at all.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
DaveHolmes
Posted 04/03/2013 - 18:48 Link
Something to do with the lack of aperture ring (and as such the lack of 'A' setting) on DA lenses perhaps?
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Digital:
Pentax K5- Vivitar 19mm 3.8; FA35mm f2; D-Xenon 100mm macro f2.8; DA50-200mm WR...
Flash:
Yongnuo YN-560; Vivitar 285HV; Cactus V4 triggers...
Film:
Pentax-MX & M50mm f1.4; Spottie & 55mm f1.8; MG & M40mm 2.8...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveholmesphotos/
gartmore
Posted 04/03/2013 - 19:04 Link
No, definitely a mechanical problem
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
DaveHolmes
Posted 04/03/2013 - 19:17 Link
gartmore wrote:
No, definitely a mechanical problem
Exactly my point - The DA lenses are different mechanically than A/F/FA lenses as they lack an Aperture ring and the 'A' setting (and its coupling)
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Digital:
Pentax K5- Vivitar 19mm 3.8; FA35mm f2; D-Xenon 100mm macro f2.8; DA50-200mm WR...
Flash:
Yongnuo YN-560; Vivitar 285HV; Cactus V4 triggers...
Film:
Pentax-MX & M50mm f1.4; Spottie & 55mm f1.8; MG & M40mm 2.8...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveholmesphotos/
gartmore
Posted 05/03/2013 - 10:14 Link
All the other DA lenses work perfectly as I would have expected, it is just the 35mm as Geordie01 has found as well.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 05/03/2013 - 10:45 Link
Just tried the DA35 lens on the jessops auto tubes that arrived this morning all working fine and dandy.

Now just to practice a bit.
Pint o' rough & a game o' darts anyone
gartmore
Posted 06/03/2013 - 10:58 Link
That would seem to point at my 35mm lens perhaps as being some how different from normal.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
geordie01
Posted 08/03/2013 - 07:39 Link
I am thinking that the plastic bayonet mount may be slightly thicker as the lens is a really tight fit on the tubes and requires more force to mount it
and the aperture lever is then very stiff.
gartmore
Posted 08/03/2013 - 09:18 Link
That's interesting I'll check mine and let you know.

Never mind, it'll soon wear down
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

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