D* 16-50 or Limited?
Posted 12/03/2013 - 16:17 - Helpful Comment
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I prefer primes, but a fast zoom is invaluable for travel or events that make changing lenses all the time difficult. I think that laziness is a bad reason to buy a zoom.
If you want a fast standard zoom, there are also alternatives to the 16-50. Sigma and Tamron both make similar lenses, for less money and better reliability.
If you want a fast standard zoom, there are also alternatives to the 16-50. Sigma and Tamron both make similar lenses, for less money and better reliability.
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Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses
Posted 12/03/2013 - 16:22 - Helpful Comment
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I dont know what's best for you but I certainly wouldn't carry around 15, 21 and 40mm lenses when my superb 16-50mm DA* 2.8 zoom covers that entire range.
But then I have an aversion to lugging heavy gear around all day on a photo shoot. That's why I dont have a grip attached to my camera bodies or bother with tripods either.
I like the freedomn to move around without hindrance of balancing lots of gear or constantly changing lenses.
David
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But then I have an aversion to lugging heavy gear around all day on a photo shoot. That's why I dont have a grip attached to my camera bodies or bother with tripods either.
I like the freedomn to move around without hindrance of balancing lots of gear or constantly changing lenses.
David
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Posted 12/03/2013 - 16:29 - Helpful Comment
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Never liked the 16-50mm 2.8, but i like the 17-70 f4,
go and try either or both see what you like, the 17-70 was on offer for £285 at amzon last year, maybe there going to be some more offers at amazon ..
go and try either or both see what you like, the 17-70 was on offer for £285 at amzon last year, maybe there going to be some more offers at amazon ..
Posted 12/03/2013 - 16:38 - Helpful Comment
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davidtrout wrote:
I dont know what's best for you but I certainly wouldn't carry around 15, 21 and 40mm lenses when my superb 16-50mm DA* 2.8 zoom covers that entire range.
But then I have an aversion to lugging heavy gear around all day on a photo shoot. That's why I dont have a grip attached to my camera bodies or bother with tripods either.
I like the freedomn to move around without hindrance of balancing lots of gear or constantly changing lenses.
...whereas I prefer using one of Pentax's small primes because I don't want to lug around a big 2.8 zoom around all day!I dont know what's best for you but I certainly wouldn't carry around 15, 21 and 40mm lenses when my superb 16-50mm DA* 2.8 zoom covers that entire range.
But then I have an aversion to lugging heavy gear around all day on a photo shoot. That's why I dont have a grip attached to my camera bodies or bother with tripods either.
I like the freedomn to move around without hindrance of balancing lots of gear or constantly changing lenses.
But it all depends. I shoot for enjoyment not income, and I enjoy looking for shots that fit the focal length of the day. But were I ever obliged to shoot an event, when I had to get a variety of shots to tell the story of the day, I would favour the zoom. At least that's how I ended up persuading myself I needed both.
Posted 12/03/2013 - 17:13 - Helpful Comment
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elfer wrote:
But it all depends. I shoot for enjoyment not income, and I enjoy looking for shots that fit the focal length of the day. But were I ever obliged to shoot an event, when I had to get a variety of shots to tell the story of the day, I would favour the zoom. At least that's how I ended up persuading myself I needed both.
davidtrout wrote:
I dont know what's best for you but I certainly wouldn't carry around 15, 21 and 40mm lenses when my superb 16-50mm DA* 2.8 zoom covers that entire range.
But then I have an aversion to lugging heavy gear around all day on a photo shoot. That's why I dont have a grip attached to my camera bodies or bother with tripods either.
I like the freedomn to move around without hindrance of balancing lots of gear or constantly changing lenses.
...whereas I prefer using one of Pentax's small primes because I don't want to lug around a big 2.8 zoom around all day!I dont know what's best for you but I certainly wouldn't carry around 15, 21 and 40mm lenses when my superb 16-50mm DA* 2.8 zoom covers that entire range.
But then I have an aversion to lugging heavy gear around all day on a photo shoot. That's why I dont have a grip attached to my camera bodies or bother with tripods either.
I like the freedomn to move around without hindrance of balancing lots of gear or constantly changing lenses.
But it all depends. I shoot for enjoyment not income, and I enjoy looking for shots that fit the focal length of the day. But were I ever obliged to shoot an event, when I had to get a variety of shots to tell the story of the day, I would favour the zoom. At least that's how I ended up persuading myself I needed both.
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Posted 12/03/2013 - 18:15 - Helpful Comment
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Blueforever wrote:
Never liked the 16-50mm 2.8, but i like the 17-70 f4,
go and try either or both see what you like, the 17-70 was on offer for £285 at amzon last year, maybe there going to be some more offers at amazon ..
Hmmm - 16-50 is a different class. Unfortunately it is hampered with the SDM reputation. However, when mine was at JPS getting fixed I pondered about a 17-70 - about the time there was a deal at Jessops - ordered it and was about to pay when I said can I check it out on a K-5? Guess what? The AF didn't work, the 16-50 came back a much better lens....Never liked the 16-50mm 2.8, but i like the 17-70 f4,
go and try either or both see what you like, the 17-70 was on offer for £285 at amzon last year, maybe there going to be some more offers at amazon ..
Similar thing - 60-250 plays up so I get a 55-300 to cover - didn't like it so the default lenses for me on the K-5 are the DA*
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Posted 12/03/2013 - 19:49 - Helpful Comment
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Whatever you do, don't sell the Ltd 70 it's a gem of a lens and almost as good as the 77 Ltd. The DA* 16 - 50 is a useful lens as you have a nice range of focal lengths and all at f/2.8. However you have a really nice selection of primes that cover the DA* 16 - 50. and I think that the quality of the primes outshine the DA* 16 - 50 but others may disagree. But, and its a big but, I would miss the the DA* 16 - 50 if I did not have one and they are not cheap these days.
Fletcher8.
Posted 12/03/2013 - 20:14
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Thanks all, there certainly is some good advice here, much for me to ponder, Jonathan-Mac makes a good point in so far as being lazy is a bad excuse to buy a zoom! He's right.
I can't keep the primes and buy a zoom, not with the K5 IIs on order anyway.
Oh decisions, decisions.............
I can't keep the primes and buy a zoom, not with the K5 IIs on order anyway.
Oh decisions, decisions.............
Posted 12/03/2013 - 21:21
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Mike-P wrote:
Happy to trade my 16-50mm for your 15/21/40mm
Umm, let me think on that a while....................
Happy to trade my 16-50mm for your 15/21/40mm
Posted 12/03/2013 - 21:24
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redbusa99 wrote:
i found the DA*16-50 to be the equal of the DA21 and DA40 at their focal lengths, the DA70 i found i hardly used but i have kept the DA15 because for me it has "something", when i know what it is i will let you know.
I know very well what you mean about the 15mm, it's my favourite, but.......
i found the DA*16-50 to be the equal of the DA21 and DA40 at their focal lengths, the DA70 i found i hardly used but i have kept the DA15 because for me it has "something", when i know what it is i will let you know.
Posted 12/03/2013 - 22:04 - Helpful Comment
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Just a thought: Would you consider an off-brand alternative to the Pentax 16-50?
Tamron's 17-50 f/2.8 seems very well regarded but is considerably cheaper. Which would allow you to keep the 15 Ltd.
Tamron's 17-50 f/2.8 seems very well regarded but is considerably cheaper. Which would allow you to keep the 15 Ltd.
Posted 13/03/2013 - 00:02 - Helpful Comment
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Whilst the Tamron is good I wouldnt put it in the same league as Pentax primes or comparable to the 16-50mm.
I had the tamron for three or four years and was constantly put off by bad reviews of the pentax. It wasnt until i bought the 16-50mm that I realised what I was missing.
Better build quality
Faster AF
Pentax colours
Weather resistance
Extra 1mm
It is razor sharp on my k-5 mkii at all focal lengths without any focus adjustment.
I had the tamron for three or four years and was constantly put off by bad reviews of the pentax. It wasnt until i bought the 16-50mm that I realised what I was missing.
Better build quality
Faster AF
Pentax colours
Weather resistance
Extra 1mm
It is razor sharp on my k-5 mkii at all focal lengths without any focus adjustment.
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recently though I've been getting lazy and have been thinking about selling the 15,21&40 in favour of the D*16-50mm 2.8.
But I've no experience of the 16-50....If it makes a difference I'm shooting with a K5 with a K5IIs on order.
Any advice gratefully received............Thanks.