Avoiding Flash Reflections in Eyeglasses

puma
Posted 06/11/2011 - 09:36 Link
This is great to know so here you are see link
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NaimKhan
Posted 06/11/2011 - 11:46 Link
Thanks Puma. Interesting.
Frogfish
Posted 06/11/2011 - 13:01 Link
Ask anyone wearing glasses to tip their heads down slightly - no reflections.
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Don
Posted 06/11/2011 - 13:16 Link
it is as simple as a bank shot in pool... angle of incidence = angle of reflectance. you move the lights or the camera so the light reflected off the glasses is reflected away from the lens.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
ChrisA
Posted 06/11/2011 - 17:27 Link
Don wrote:
you move the lights or the camera...
... or get the subject to turn their head a little.

I thought it was a bit poor, to be honest, that in the whole of that video, with the studio, and all that expensive gear, the one bit of advice that would actually help someone with just a camera and a pop-up flash, wasn't even mentioned once.

Edit: just noticed, FF's already pointed this out. Still think the point about the vid not mentioning it stands though - poor, poor poor.
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Edited by ChrisA: 06/11/2011 - 17:29
gartmore
Posted 06/11/2011 - 19:33 Link
All of the above, and he can't tell left from right.

Honestly, anyone who cant work out that you move the light has maybe picked the wrong career or hobby.
Ken
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puma
Posted 06/11/2011 - 19:51 Link
To be honest its only there to help the beginner not guys like you real professionals, but its interesting to here your views, if it helps some people on the site it was worth putting on.
Thanks for looking
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Don
Posted 06/11/2011 - 21:57 Link
ChrisA wrote:
Don wrote:
you move the lights or the camera...
... or get the subject to turn their head a little.

I thought it was a bit poor, to be honest, that in the whole of that video, with the studio, and all that expensive gear, the one bit of advice that would actually help someone with just a camera and a pop-up flash, wasn't even mentioned once.

Edit: just noticed, FF's already pointed this out. Still think the point about the vid not mentioning it stands though - poor, poor poor.
yes good point.... but when it comes to portraits, I "rough in" my lights and exposure first, then pose my subject, and choose my camera position, then fine tune from there....

sometimes you pose people to hide flaws, so asking them to move and hold wears on their patience... it is best to pre visualize the shot, then adjust the lights and tweek the exposure.... you just never know when that first or second "Test" shot is gonna be the keeper....
so for me, it is definitely "move the lights" first, camera second, as opposed to moving the subject....
but that is preference, not law.
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 06/11/2011 - 21:58
Eagle12
Posted 06/11/2011 - 22:39 Link
gartmore wrote:
All of the above, and he can't tell left from right.

Honestly, anyone who cant work out that you move the light has maybe picked the wrong career or hobby.
I think he was talking about the left lens on her left, not his. Other than that I agree with everything else that has been said about lighting and angles. ( on this thread I mean not his video).
ChrisA
Posted 06/11/2011 - 23:25 Link
puma wrote:
To be honest its only there to help the beginner not guys like you real professionals
The thing is, none of that 'help' was any use at all if the guy with the camera is a beginner, shooting without movable lights and reflectors.

If all you have is the camera and the pop-up, nothing will work except moving the subject, and he didn't even mention it. (Or, I suppose, making the subject stay put and moving round her or him.)

I suppose there may be people out there who get all the kit, and then have so little idea that they have to resort to Adorama training vids to help them with the basics. I can imagine what their name might be too....
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Edited by ChrisA: 06/11/2011 - 23:26
puma
Posted 06/11/2011 - 23:39 Link
All I can say to that is, a man who knows every thing knows nothing.
you have to see and look and lean any way you can and have a open mind or you dont learn anything.but i must say Adorama training vids some are good and some not so good.
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Edited by puma: 06/11/2011 - 23:40
ChrisA
Posted 07/11/2011 - 08:58 Link
puma wrote:
All I can say to that is, a man who knows every thing knows nothing.
Not really sure what point you're making here.
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you have to see and look and lean any way you can and have a open mind or you dont learn anything
Nothing to disagree with there.
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Pentaxophile
Posted 07/11/2011 - 12:24 Link
Clearly the obvious answer, and the one quite literally staring us in the face -

Get them to take their flippin' glasses off!



But seriously I don't see why members are getting so exercised about the clip... nice bit of basic lighting advice but of course you've got to bear in mind Adorama don't do clips like that just for fun... they obviously hope they can sell a bits of lighting gear
johnriley
Posted 07/11/2011 - 12:55 Link
Well yes, you could ask them to remove their glasses, but not everyone will want to. And pictures of girls in glassses can look rather good....

I opt for changing the angle of the sitter's head (or moving the light) or tilting the glasses slightly to remove any reflections.

Two examples:

[IMG]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff250/johnriley1uk/Donna1.jpg[/IMG]
Donna, Pentax 645n + 75mm lens
[IMG]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff250/johnriley1uk/037Steve800px.jpg[/IMG]
Steve, Pentax K-5, 77mm lens
Best regards, John
Edited by johnriley: 07/11/2011 - 12:56
gartmore
Posted 07/11/2011 - 15:08 Link
I didn't you were sponsored by Sekonic, do Pentax know about this?
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

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