Atalanta #34


paulyrichard

Link Posted 17/05/2011 - 11:21
The un-shrouded Atalanta, overlooking the shrouded renovation work on the Albert Bridge...




Atalanta - Chelsea Embankment, London '11



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thoughton

Link Posted 17/05/2011 - 11:26
Nicely composed Pauly, but that sky seems a bit overpowering.

It's also very small I wanted to see a larger one so went to your Flickr page, and it's very small there too!
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i-Berg

Link Posted 17/05/2011 - 12:14
Not sure if you are a Lightroom user Paul, - if so, there is an excellent ND filter available that you can apply from any direction at a strength that you determine. Like Tim, I wonder if the sky could do with a toning down?

Good to see some more of this line in your images.
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paulyrichard

Link Posted 17/05/2011 - 16:09
Thanks guys, I take on-board what your saying about the sky but there is no detail in the sky at all, it's just featureless cloud cover. I did try and 'burn' in the sky but it looks false as a result.
What I did do was to create more distinction by 'burning' in the shrouds a little.

Prior to this, the distinction would be less if I was to tone down the sky, as it would start to become a similar tone as the shrouds and i'd lose the definition. Then of course I would need to 'dodge' the shrouds.

i-berg, I do have LR2 and that graduated filter is something i'm using all the time on my photographs, cheers.






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aliengrove

Link Posted 17/05/2011 - 23:00
I really like this, and the burnt out sky does not really bother me. It gives more contrast between the left and right hand side of the picture, which I think works quite well.
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i-Berg

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 11:35
Sorry Paul - I did mean the graduated filter.
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techno-terminator

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 11:41
Is this when some digital manipulation would help ?

Putting in a slightly better sky from another photograph ?

I remember our Tutor telling us to make sure we got series of sky shots so that if we really were in trouble with a 'bad' sky we could replace it with one from our own personal library of such things. I've always been against doing such things - but it might be useful in this situation
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paulyrichard

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 14:57
Thanks Alien', thanks techno'.

techno', that would be a 'sound' idea, thanks. I'll get back on this and have another go at 'burning' in some slight suggestion of cloud cover.
Although, you know what I may do, i'll go and re-visit the place and take another shot. It's not far from where I live and well within walking distance, anyway.

Having said that though, I agree with Alien' too, i'm not against seeing a white sky in a photo as this, but I feel some tonal change up there would be a little more desirable as others have pointed out.
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techno-terminator

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 15:53
the tonal change was what I was thinking - it could help in this case .

As many here know I belong to the less-you-do-the-better school and think that some of the fiddling [ take a bit from here and put it there , this colour doesn't go well so change it ] can get a bit OTT.

Me, I've only recently started shooting in RAW and realise that a little tweaking in Aperture can make a HUGE difference but dealing with a 'flat' monotone featureless sky is something I can't do and I can't afford Photoshop.

For me - I'd try another shot another day when there were some fluffy clouds around to help - but sometimes you can't get a second shot

Best of luck , 'cos I like the shot
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paulyrichard

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 15:58
Yeah, your right. Thanks again for that, techno'.
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thoughton

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 16:01
I think taking a new shot would be a lot less hassle than replacing the sky Replacing the sky isn't so bad if it's all straight lines and roof edges etc, here you've got leaves and branches and stuff, it would be a nightmare to do it properly.
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paulyrichard

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 17:26
thoughton wrote:
I think taking a new shot would be a lot less hassle than replacing the sky

Seconded!
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paulyrichard

Link Posted 18/05/2011 - 18:49
Here is an attempt at forming some cloud shadows by 'burning' in at different levels, and then feathering out the effects a little. Just for fun...

To me, it still looks like my hand has had something to do with it, I just cannot fool myself!!






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i-Berg

Link Posted 19/05/2011 - 07:38
It's improved, IMO - it seems to be easier to focus on the statue now.
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