Arty high key?

redbusa99
Posted 23/10/2013 - 23:37 Link
saw something like this done with birds and started to think if there were other subjects that would be suitable, so off to a field full of horses.i will just throw it out there and duck

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the blue eye does belong to the horse and not adobe


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YORKSBOY
Posted 24/10/2013 - 07:23 Link
I like these- especially the third.

John
Pentaxophile
Posted 24/10/2013 - 20:00 Link
They don't really work for me (especially the last one). They don't look deliberately high key, so much as accidentally 'burned out' or overexposed, IMHO. No. 3 is closest to a good result I think.
andrewk
Posted 24/10/2013 - 23:53 Link
I don't know much about this - but most of the "high key" images that I've seen are light toned subjects against a light toned background. These photos seem to be burnt out images against a burnt out background, which isn't really the same thing.

I side with Pentaxophile.

Andrew
Smeggypants
Posted 25/10/2013 - 00:16 Link
Horse!!!!


I'd consider this art, not photography. I actually quite like the 2nd one. There's something about it. not keen on the rest.
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Gravelrash
Posted 25/10/2013 - 09:22 Link
On a more positive note I think that if it were my horse I would be pleased to have one of these pictures hanging on the wall.

Once you go into "Arty" images I doubt you'll garner much praise on a photography forum but, like you, I am happy to use photography and software to create an image I want. All down to taste and everyone's different.

I like.
Steve

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TonyM
Posted 25/10/2013 - 09:54 Link
I'm with Pentaxophile/Andrewk. Have you tried pulling back a bit - less burn-out and a bit more detail? I prefer B&W, but keep the whites white, not grey as in the first one! Also, I would have a symmetrical crop on the first two - horse centre. If you pull back the exposure then a vignette going to white in the corners could have the same effect washing out the background?

Tony
redbusa99
Posted 25/10/2013 - 16:13 Link
thanks for the comments,i was not sure high key was right myself as i say it was something i saw and digging deeper the lady that did it deliberately blows out the backgrounds,deliberate oof, never uses a tripod and hand holds 10 stop filter shots also uses camera movement. she is FRPS with the attitude that all rules can be broken. it just appealed to me and as smeggy said it is "art" not a photograph in the normal understanding of the word and as such is completely at the mercy of peoples likes and dislikes. my personal favourite is the last one which i think would lend itself to being printed on Epson Watercolour paper to turn it into a "painting" but that,s just me, once again thanks for looking and comments
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Opethian
Posted 25/10/2013 - 21:50 Link
The first and third for me. Love the set and would be interested in seeing more in the same hi-key process.
Smeggypants
Posted 26/10/2013 - 05:55 Link
redbusa99 wrote:
thanks for the comments,i was not sure high key was right myself as i say it was something i saw and digging deeper the lady that did it deliberately blows out the backgrounds,deliberate oof, never uses a tripod and hand holds 10 stop filter shots also uses camera movement. she is FRPS with the attitude that all rules can be broken. it just appealed to me and as smeggy said it is "art" not a photograph in the normal understanding of the word and as such is completely at the mercy of peoples likes and dislikes. my personal favourite is the last one which i think would lend itself to being printed on Epson Watercolour paper to turn it into a "painting" but that,s just me, once again thanks for looking and comments
That raises an interesting point .... personally I think "normal photography" is also pure art and is also at the mercy of peoples subejctive responses.

HDR is an interesting example as a technique which varies widely in it's saturation and as such can be regularly photography or what we would normally call art. I suppose it's down to where we define the boundary between the two and wide is that boundary and the cross over.

You'd have to be on LSD to see a horse like this in real life -- but I still really like #2. I can imagine that printed on a one metre almost square ( preserving the aspect ) canvas and hung on the wall
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tyronet2000
Posted 26/10/2013 - 08:40 Link
I admire your pluck for defying the rules and posting something "different". I quite like #3
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johnriley
Posted 26/10/2013 - 08:48 Link
Will has already alluded to these not being "high key" but just over-exposed. High Key is where an image predominately contains the lighter tones in zones VII, VIII, such as a portrait perhaps. Nothing in the image would be burnt out.

Here we've taken the image of something not isn't made of light tones and deliberately blown it out, but that's OK if that's the desired end result. Does it work? I'm not sure it does for the subjects chosen, but it might if it was applied to a menacing dark figure, looming out of a background of over-exposure.

Good experiment, I'd look for different subject matter personally.
Best regards, John
Dodge69
Posted 26/10/2013 - 09:05 Link
I know the effect you're going for and you're on the right track. Like John says try some other subjects. Most importantly keep going if you enjoy it, they'll get better and better
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redbusa99
Posted 26/10/2013 - 21:52 Link
thanks once again for comments, i think the idea is to push everything out but retain some semblence of the subject. as John and Dodge say perhaps try some different subjects.
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Lü
Posted 27/10/2013 - 07:39 Link
Smeggy said
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HDR is an interesting example as a technique which varies widely in it's saturation and as such can be regularly photography or what we would normally call art. I suppose it's down to where we define the boundary between the two and wide is that boundary and the cross over.
Any one listening to the Grayson Perry's Reith Lectures about Contemporary Art. In the 2nd lecture he quotes Martin Parr's opinion about photography as art. Kinda put things into perspective for me. I now accept that I am not an artist just someone attempting to be a photographer and a poor one at that.

High Key aint easy but it's great when you can pull it off. Marlena Dietrich never looked better.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.

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