Anyone using Gimp?

trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 14:33 Link
Anyone using Gimp free software? and having trouble finding their image when they have finished editing it? or is it just me! spend about 2 hours with one photos and anothe 2 hours trying to find it, only to discover it on the tool bar, help please, paintshop pro dosen't do this but Gimp as more to offer. Thanks Trixie :
wvbarnes
Posted 10/07/2011 - 15:06 - Helpful Comment Link
http://www.serif.com/FreeDownloads/

Nottinghma based Serif's PhotoPlus is excellent and here is a free version to try
DoctorJeff
Posted 10/07/2011 - 15:15 - Helpful Comment Link
Just a few thoughts:
- I tried GIMP V1 a few years back. Found that I preferred Photoshop. Gimp was more powerful, but much harder to learn.
- GIMP is software for Linux - then translated for Windows. Don't expect it to always do things the way that Windows standard software does.
- Take an image - any old image - and play with saving it - and see where it saves to by default.
- Try making a directory/folder for each batch of images, and copy the ones you want into it. Point GIMP at that directory > import an image > rename > save. One would expect the image to be saved back to that directory. If not, click on "Save As" and the popup box should tell you where it expects to save the new file.
- Finally, try the GIMP helpfiles (built in) or go to :
www.gimphelp.org

Geoff
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trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 15:26 Link
DoctorJeff wrote:
Just a few thoughts:
- I tried GIMP V1 a few years back. Found that I preferred Photoshop. Gimp was more powerful, but much harder to learn.
- GIMP is software for Linux - then translated for Windows. Don't expect it to always do things the way that Windows standard software does.
- Take an image - any old image - and play with saving it - and see where it saves to by default.
- Try making a directory/folder for each batch of images, and copy the ones you want into it. Point GIMP at that directory > import an image > rename > save. One would expect the image to be saved back to that directory. If not, click on "Save As" and the popup box should tell you where it expects to save the new file.
- Finally, try the GIMP helpfiles (built in) or go to :
www.gimphelp.org

Geoff
Thanks Geoff, it is a bit hard to learn I've tried before to have a go with Gimp and wanted to try again, you do get good results when you finally figure it out though. thanks again Trixie
trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 15:28 Link
wvbarnes wrote:
http://www.serif.com/FreeDownloads/

Nottinghma based Serif's PhotoPlus is excellent and here is a free version to try
Thank you Bill I've picked up your link I will give it a go cheers Trixie
DoctorJeff
Posted 10/07/2011 - 15:35 Link
wvbarnes wrote:
http://www.serif.com/FreeDownloads/

Nottinghma based Serif's PhotoPlus is excellent and here is a free version to try
Oh Yes, free Serif Software.
All you usually have to do is ring them for a registration number.
That will be ten minutes of sales pitch before you get your number.
Then you will get e-mails every day offering you more product to buy.
And, the regular phone calls asking how you are getting on (and do you want to upgrade?).

I actually bought some Serif stuff. I found that one package was actually painfully awkward to use (far worse than GIMP), took myself off their mailing list, told the next salesperson who phoned that I was not impressed, and asked not to be called again.

Then I got a patronising e-mail from their sale people telling me that new software could require some time to learn. At the time I was actually heading a software development project (World Class stuff, with some defence applications) and had about 25 years of computer use behind me. There was also a small matter of me teaching on HCI and other software topics - on BSc and Masters courses. So the next phone call I got was a case of me telling them exactly what I thought of their software, their company, and a very firm GOODBYE. It took the two more phone calles before they finally got the message.

They are harder to get rid of than Ashampoo.
There is other free software about, and you can always buy remaindered stuff - notably PSE - very cheaply.

Geoff
Water can wear away a stone - but it can't cook lunch
X-5
istDS
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P50.
Lenses Digital: 50-200, 18-55 KAF: 28-80.
Lenses KA & K: SMC-KA f2.0, SMC-K f1.4, SMC-K f1.7 Tokina KA 28-70 , SMC Pentax 70-210 F4, Sigma KA 75-300 , Hanimex 500mm Mirror, and the Tamron Adaptall-2 stuff.
and then there's all the M42 kit, and the accessories ...
Edited by DoctorJeff: 10/07/2011 - 15:36
Dangermouse
Posted 10/07/2011 - 16:01 - Helpful Comment Link
A good argument to stick with GIMP then - no aggressive pressure selling!
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MarkTaylor
Posted 10/07/2011 - 16:33 - Helpful Comment Link
It's a matter of being aware where you have saved your work, in this respect GIMP is no different from any other software. Always make sure you choose a sensible place to save rather than letting the application choose for you, regardless which application you're using. The only difference with GIMP is that the file requester - the interface you use to select where your files are saved - is a little different in appearance from standard Windows or Mac applications because it's derived from GTK which is really a Linux user interface. However, if you take a few minutes to familiarise yourself with it, it is no more difficult to use than the Windows or Mac standards. Like any decent modern file interface, it makes it fairly obvious how to find your way to any given folder in your file system.

If you have saved a file in a default location and want to find it, it's usually just a matter of going to save another file because the default location will not likely have changed. In the case of GIMP you can see clearly where it's saving as the directory path is illustrated as a series of 'bubbles' with the names of the directories in them near the top of the window. If you really can't figure it out from that, then save a file with a unique name which is unlikely to occur anywhere else such as "mysearchtest1234", and then use the operating system's file search facility to locate it. You should find any other files you saved from the same application in the same location.

Either way, you should find your saved files in a couple of minutes rather than hours.

If you don't know enough about file systems and directory structures to decide where a sensible place to save your files would be - learn. Find someone who can teach you. Seriously, it's absolutely vital for any level of computer use but the very most basic, and not knowing it will hold you back hugely if you want to do anything with a computer at all other than play games.
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Edited by MarkTaylor: 10/07/2011 - 16:40
trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 17:03 Link
Dangermouse wrote:
A good argument to stick with GIMP then - no aggressive pressure selling!
Thanks I agree no hard sell with Gimp, but I must say I haven't had any from Coral paintshope pro X12 either in fact not had an upgrade for a long time from them. Cheers Trixie
MarkTaylor wrote:
It's a matter of being aware where you have saved your work, in this respect GIMP is no different from any other software. Always make sure you choose a sensible place to save rather than letting the application choose for you, regardless which application you're using. The only difference with GIMP is that the file requester - the interface you use to select where your files are saved - is a little different in appearance from standard Windows or Mac applications because it's derived from GTK which is really a Linux user interface. However, if you take a few minutes to familiarise yourself with it, it is no more difficult to use than the Windows or Mac standards. Like any decent modern file interface, it makes it fairly obvious how to find your way to any given folder in your file system.

If you have saved a file in a default location and want to find it, it's usually just a matter of going to save another file because the default location will not likely have changed. In the case of GIMP you can see clearly where it's saving as the directory path is illustrated as a series of 'bubbles' with the names of the directories in them near the top of the window. If you really can't figure it out from that, then save a file with a unique name which is unlikely to occur anywhere else such as "mysearchtest1234", and then use the operating system's file search facility to locate it. You should find any other files you saved from the same application in the same location.

Either way, you should find your saved files in a couple of minutes rather than hours.

If you don't know enough about file systems and directory structures to decide where a sensible place to save your files would be - learn. Find someone who can teach you. Seriously, it's absolutely vital for any level of computer use but the very most basic, and not knowing it will hold you back hugely if you want to do anything with a computer at all other than play games.
Thanks guys I've found out where it all belongs now, I can manage to save it to pictures or temporty storeage, instead of searching around for ages!!!! ps, never played a ame on the PC either cheers Trixie
Aero
Posted 10/07/2011 - 17:05 - Helpful Comment Link
DoctorJeff wrote:
wvbarnes wrote:
http://www.serif.com/FreeDownloads/

Nottinghma based Serif's PhotoPlus is excellent and here is a free version to try
Oh Yes, free Serif Software.
All you usually have to do is ring them for a registration number.
That will be ten minutes of sales pitch before you get your number.
Then you will get e-mails every day offering you more product to buy.
And, the regular phone calls asking how you are getting on (and do you want to upgrade?).

I actually bought some Serif stuff. I found that one package was actually painfully awkward to use (far worse than GIMP), took myself off their mailing list, told the next salesperson who phoned that I was not impressed, and asked not to be called again.

Then I got a patronising e-mail from their sale people telling me that new software could require some time to learn. At the time I was actually heading a software development project (World Class stuff, with some defence applications) and had about 25 years of computer use behind me. There was also a small matter of me teaching on HCI and other software topics - on BSc and Masters courses. So the next phone call I got was a case of me telling them exactly what I thought of their software, their company, and a very firm GOODBYE. It took the two more phone calles before they finally got the message.

They are harder to get rid of than Ashampoo.
There is other free software about, and you can always buy remaindered stuff - notably PSE - very cheaply.

Geoff
.. or you can register online by clicking through Community and Support>Product Registration. It's good policy not to give your phone number because they will call every now and agan trying to sell you something you don't want or need. Their emails are pretty harmless, though. There's a wealth of advice available on the company's user forum.

Al
trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 17:20 Link
A BIG THANK YOU to everyone for all the posts and replys to my question, given me lots to think about cheers Trixie
trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 17:22 Link
DoctorJeff wrote:
wvbarnes wrote:
http://www.serif.com/FreeDownloads/

Nottinghma based Serif's PhotoPlus is excellent and here is a free version to try
Oh Yes, free Serif Software.
All you usually have to do is ring them for a registration number.
That will be ten minutes of sales pitch before you get your number.
Then you will get e-mails every day offering you more product to buy.
And, the regular phone calls asking how you are getting on (and do you want to upgrade?).

I actually bought some Serif stuff. I found that one package was actually painfully awkward to use (far worse than GIMP), took myself off their mailing list, told the next salesperson who phoned that I was not impressed, and asked not to be called again.

Then I got a patronising e-mail from their sale people telling me that new software could require some time to learn. At the time I was actually heading a software development project (World Class stuff, with some defence applications) and had about 25 years of computer use behind me. There was also a small matter of me teaching on HCI and other software topics - on BSc and Masters courses. So the next phone call I got was a case of me telling them exactly what I thought of their software, their company, and a very firm GOODBYE. It took the two more phone calles before they finally got the message.

They are harder to get rid of than Ashampoo.
There is other free software about, and you can always buy remaindered stuff - notably PSE - very cheaply.

Geoff
Oh I can do without all the hassle I'll stick to gimp and my old paintshop pro thanks again Trixie
trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 17:24 Link
Thank you one and all for all your comments I'll learn Gimp and I can always stick to my old paintshop pro its never let me down yet. cheers Trixie
wvbarnes
Posted 10/07/2011 - 17:35 - Helpful Comment Link
Hi,

I've used Serif DTP, Web, Drawing and Photo software for some 15 years now

If you don't want sales calls you just untick on your account or tell them. It's a UK company with fine products that you get very cheap once a regular customer.

Each to their own, I was just trying to help! I paid £29.99 for the latest Photoplus which has a RAW studio, free Panorama program and excellent editing options.
Edited by wvbarnes: 10/07/2011 - 17:51
trixie
Posted 10/07/2011 - 22:26 Link
Thanks Bill, always good to have another option to have a go at, cheers Trixie

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