An English lesson
Posted 07/10/2010 - 21:46
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The Barnhart Dictionary of Etymology (Wilson, 1988, ISBN
0-8242-0745-9) says: "~I~ pron. 1137 i; later I (about 1250,
in The Story of Genesis and Exodus); developed from the unstressed
form of Old English (about 725) ic singular pronoun of the first
person (nominative case). Modern and Middle English I developed
from earlier i in the stressed position. I came to be written
with a capital letter thereby making it a distinct word and avoiding
misreading handwritten manuscripts. In the northern and midland
dialects of England the capitalized form I appeared about 1250.
In the south of England, where Old English ic early shifted in
pronunciation to ich (by palatalization), the form I did not
become established until the 1700's (although it appears
sporadically before that time)."
Or more succinctly:The Barnhart Dictionary of Etymology (Wilson, 1988, ISBN
0-8242-0745-9) says: "~I~ pron. 1137 i; later I (about 1250,
in The Story of Genesis and Exodus); developed from the unstressed
form of Old English (about 725) ic singular pronoun of the first
person (nominative case). Modern and Middle English I developed
from earlier i in the stressed position. I came to be written
with a capital letter thereby making it a distinct word and avoiding
misreading handwritten manuscripts. In the northern and midland
dialects of England the capitalized form I appeared about 1250.
In the south of England, where Old English ic early shifted in
pronunciation to ich (by palatalization), the form I did not
become established until the 1700's (although it appears
sporadically before that time)."
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"Ego has nothing to do with the capitalization of the pronoun I. Printing and handwriting have everything to do with it. In Middle English the first person was ich--with a lower-case i. When this was shortened to i, manuscript writers and printers found it often got lost or attached to a neighboring word. So the reason for the capital I is simply to avoid confusion and error. Of course, some writers refuse to be bound by this convention. Two of our favorites, the poet e.e. cummings and Don Marquis, author of archy and mehitabel, both favored the lower-case i" (Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins 303).
"Ego has nothing to do with the capitalization of the pronoun I. Printing and handwriting have everything to do with it. In Middle English the first person was ich--with a lower-case i. When this was shortened to i, manuscript writers and printers found it often got lost or attached to a neighboring word. So the reason for the capital I is simply to avoid confusion and error. Of course, some writers refuse to be bound by this convention. Two of our favorites, the poet e.e. cummings and Don Marquis, author of archy and mehitabel, both favored the lower-case i" (Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins 303).
Posted 07/10/2010 - 22:00
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Thank you both and Mat actually nailed it on the head why I was asking this, I find it so individualistic. I know that I sometimes write it in a lower case letter because as a capital it didn't feel right.
Posted 08/10/2010 - 09:01
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I see!
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Posted 08/10/2010 - 09:15
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There's actually another way of looking at this , which could help you, specifically, Stefan.
'I' is actually being used as a substitute for your name which of course always starts with an uppercase letter.
It's very formal to say " I , Stefan , would like to ask a question about ..... " there's a degree of pedantry in that which is not good. It just doesn't fit in modern speech.
So if you think that 'I' is ALWAYS intended for your name then it does make sense to use the uppercase letter
'I' is actually being used as a substitute for your name which of course always starts with an uppercase letter.
It's very formal to say " I , Stefan , would like to ask a question about ..... " there's a degree of pedantry in that which is not good. It just doesn't fit in modern speech.
So if you think that 'I' is ALWAYS intended for your name then it does make sense to use the uppercase letter
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Posted 08/10/2010 - 10:33
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I'd go with TT's version (short for your name, which is always capitalised), although the printing/handwriting history is always interesting.
English grammar is like our legal system - mostly from a chaotic and inconsistent case-by-case precedent rather than formal laws (like the french)...
English grammar is like our legal system - mostly from a chaotic and inconsistent case-by-case precedent rather than formal laws (like the french)...
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Posted 08/10/2010 - 17:19
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Sorry TT but I don't think I can see it that way, I is the same as ik in dutch and we can use it precisely the same way you do and we don't write it with a capital letter. neither do any other language I believe.
Also if what you said is true then you or we should also be with a capital because you also have a name and so do we right?
Also if what you said is true then you or we should also be with a capital because you also have a name and so do we right?
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The word comes from the old English word ic, in Dutch it's ik, German ich, Norse ek, ect. so I see where it's coming from but I don't see why the English use a capital letter for it.
Do you know the reason?
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