2 x Converter

Ratcatcher
Posted 23/02/2008 - 16:25 Link
Sorry if this is a stupid question but here goes.

Exactly how much difference would a 2 x converter make to a 50mm f 2:8 macro lens, i know i would probably loose a couple of stops. Would the magnification be better (ie more than 1:1) or would it act just like a 150mm macro. I would rather get a 100mm f 2:8 macro but i've seen a few 50mm for sale lately.
Tyr
Posted 23/02/2008 - 17:06 Link
AFAIK You'd end up with a 100mm F5.6 Macro lens with greater than 1:1 magnification because of the closer focusing distance.
Ratcatcher
Posted 23/02/2008 - 17:15 Link
But what would the quality be like.
johnriley
Posted 23/02/2008 - 17:41 Link
The thing about converters is that they don't alter the minimum focusing distance of the lens, so you get a doubling of magnification.

The downside is the loss of lens speed, but even more so the loss of quality.

I have not yet found a converter that is better than just blowing up the centre of the image instead.
Best regards, John
Ratcatcher
Posted 23/02/2008 - 17:46 Link
Yeah the quality factor was what i was thinking. It's just that i've been bidding on e-bay for a macro lens around the 100mm range and keep getting outbid. So i thought of going for the cheaper option of a 50mm plus converter.
iceblinker
Posted 23/02/2008 - 18:07 Link
http://photo.net/learn/optics/tc2/index.html -

"Since results using a 2x TC are always inferior to those from the prime lens with no TC added, the question is sometimes raised as to whether it's better to use a 2x TC or to simply enlarge the image from the prime lens by a factor of 2. Below is an example that gives a clear answer. The image made using the 2x TC is clearly much better then the 2x enlargement of the image from the prime lens."
iceblinker
Posted 23/02/2008 - 18:10 Link
To save money, how about using extension tubes or a reversing ring with a non-macro lens? Some more work is involved but the results can be very good.
~Pete
Ratcatcher
Posted 23/02/2008 - 18:27 Link
Thanks for the help looks like i am going to have to be a bit more patient and buy the lens that i would prefer to have.
George Lazarette
Posted 23/02/2008 - 18:51 Link
Remember the old saying: "There ain't no such thing as a bad macro lens".

Look out for an old manual-focus lens from Pentax or Ricoh or Tamron (especially) and you should be OK.

G
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MX veteran
Posted 24/02/2008 - 03:15 Link
In general I would avoid converters. In my experience I have always had better results from cropping an image of any given lens than that produced by a converter.
K100D Super, 18-55, 50-200, Sigma 10-20, Sigma 70mm macro and lots of old lenses

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