16-45 vs 24-90
Posted 16/11/2006 - 08:44
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The 16-45mm is slightly better than the 24-90mm.
If you are a wide-angle photographer by nature, then the choice is clear.
I also prefer the build quality of the 16-45mm. Despite the 24-90mm being excellent I do find its "loose" construction a bit disconcerting.
If you are a wide-angle photographer by nature, then the choice is clear.
I also prefer the build quality of the 16-45mm. Despite the 24-90mm being excellent I do find its "loose" construction a bit disconcerting.
Best regards, John
Posted 16/11/2006 - 09:05
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Which lens exhibits vignetting. The 24-90 certainly shouldn't unless you have too small a hood on it. I've never noticed it with my 16-45 on my D either. Maybe your filter is causing it. You'll see other threads on here about opinions on filters. Personally, I can't see the point of buying a very expensive lens high quality lens, then limiting its performance by putting a cheap piece of glass over the front of it.
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Posted 16/11/2006 - 09:17
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Which lens exhibits vignetting. The 24-90 certainly shouldn't unless you have too small a hood on it. I've never noticed it with my 16-45 on my D either. Maybe your filter is causing it. You'll see other threads on here about opinions on filters. Personally, I can't see the point of buying a very expensive lens high quality lens, then limiting its performance by putting a cheap piece of glass over the front of it.
It's the 18-55 and the filter is a B+W - so 'cheap' lens and good quality filter....Which lens exhibits vignetting. The 24-90 certainly shouldn't unless you have too small a hood on it. I've never noticed it with my 16-45 on my D either. Maybe your filter is causing it. You'll see other threads on here about opinions on filters. Personally, I can't see the point of buying a very expensive lens high quality lens, then limiting its performance by putting a cheap piece of glass over the front of it.
I would prefer a filter on the front to protect the front element, but in some cases like on my Sigma 15-30 it's just not possible....
I should mention the vignetting is gradual and not 'sudden' so whether it's just catching on the edge of the filter or a general flaw in the lens design I'm not so bothered, but the fact it's there warrants some 'expenditure'.
I should add that the 24-90 is probably one of the best lenses I have bought - I know the limitations about the build quality, but that does not affect image quality thank goodness, but stuck on the front of the"*ist D it is an absolute dream to hold.
Posted 16/11/2006 - 09:24
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I would try taking a few shots with the filter off and see if you get the same/different result. If the lenses image circle is a very close fit to your sensors dimensions or it is slightly off centre (unlikely), vignetting may occur.
Q: Is the vignetting more or less uniform at each corner of the image?
Q: Is the vignetting more or less uniform at each corner of the image?
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 16/11/2006 - 09:26
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I would prefer a filter on the front to protect the front element...
I wouldn't be so sure of that I have both the 16-45 and the 24-90. Both had Hoya Pro-1 UV0 slimline filters to "protect" the lens. Managed to drop the 24-90 (*ist-D and lens slipped round my shoulder while kneeling down so it didn't fall far) and the filter smashed, splintered, and made a terrible mess and I came within a hair's breadth of damaging the front element with the razor sharp pieces. Last year the 16-45 had a similar experience but was in a case - only the filter smashed, but again it could've been really nasty and expensive.I would prefer a filter on the front to protect the front element...
You'd be surprised just how hard the SMC coating is Having had these experiences I'm running without filters now. Makes you a little more careful too
Regarding quality:
Build quality - yes, the 16-45 is better. Much more solid, and the slip-clutch focus ring is great.
Image quality - as John mentions the 16-45 has the edge.
However, I still love the 24-90 on the DSLR If I have a two lens setup I take the 12-24 and 24-90, if I can only take one it's the 16-45. For portraits the 24-90 can be a beauty at 90mm.
I think you'd better start saving
Matt
Posted 16/11/2006 - 10:50
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As JR says, your choice should be made on the basis of the focal length range. Although the 16-45 is said to be slightly better, you know from your own experience that the 24-90 is very good indeed.
For use as a tourist lens (which is mainly what I use zooms for - wandering round a foreign city and not wanting to carry much gear), I would choose the 24-90 on a film body and the 16-45 on a DSLR.
G
For use as a tourist lens (which is mainly what I use zooms for - wandering round a foreign city and not wanting to carry much gear), I would choose the 24-90 on a film body and the 16-45 on a DSLR.
G
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Posted 16/11/2006 - 14:30
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Thank you gents....
The thought of purchasing another 24-90 also crossed my mind...what might not have come through in my initial post was the difference between the 18-55 and 24-90 in terms of image quality....seems like the extra expense of the 16-45 is well worth it.
But I await the 16-50 DA* before commiting...
The thought of purchasing another 24-90 also crossed my mind...what might not have come through in my initial post was the difference between the 18-55 and 24-90 in terms of image quality....seems like the extra expense of the 16-45 is well worth it.
But I await the 16-50 DA* before commiting...
Posted 18/11/2006 - 04:19
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You can use the 16-45 on a professional job if you need to, I wouldn't risk it with the kit lens.
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I noticed that wide open at the wide end there is a lot of vignetting (and yes I do have a UV filter on the front) on the 18-55.
Which means itchy feet time, the DL is going to be replaced by the K10D plus 16-45 or the 16-50....I assume the quality of the 16-50 should be as good as the 16-45, if not much better.
So, how much better is the 16-45 versus 24-90? If there they are the same then great, because the 24-90 is a stunning lens. If the 16-45 is better then I had better start saving.
Those who have 16-45 and 24-90 your opinions please.
Ta
Peter