16-45 or 17-70?

jules
Posted 06/06/2011 - 09:21 Link
Bearing in mind I'm a Landscaper and will hopefully soon have a 12-24mm again!).
I want to go back to Zooms, I bought the DA Ltd's to teach me better shot discipline and I think I have now learned my lesson, so time to move on...
So to go in between the 12-24 and the 50-135, which is best optically?
Don't care about SDM as I don't feel it's a factor in such short focal lengths, or the missing 5mm in the 16-45, just the optics...
They seem very similar judging by all the reviews...
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Edited by jules: 06/06/2011 - 09:22
simonkit
Posted 06/06/2011 - 09:49 - Helpful Comment Link
I haven't owned the 16-45 but own the DA17-70 which I think is excellent, probably nothing to choose between the two lenses regarding sharpness, colour and contrast I guess are both similar (very nice). I think the DA17-70 has less CA/PF than the 16-45 from what I've seen.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, your decision is probably down to price & focal range as much as anything

Simon
claudefrog
Posted 06/06/2011 - 10:21 Link
I recently owned a 16-45 and it was terrible, maybe just a bad copy. sent it back and got the Sigma 17-70mm 2.8-4 DC Macro and it's superb.
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MattMatic
Posted 06/06/2011 - 11:05 - Helpful Comment Link
I have both
The 16-45 is much lighter than the 17-70.

Optically, I much prefer the bokeh on the 17-70 (it is very smooth and similar to the 50/1.4 and 24-90). The 16-45 is a bit too busy for me. But that's personal opinion.

The 16-45 zoom mechanism is interesting. It extends at the 16mm end which allows for totally bizarre points of view when used close up. (Pretty fun actually!) The 17-70 is conventional, and has a half decent macro facility.

Of course the 17-70 is SDM only. The focus throw is pretty short, and it can hunt on occasions, but this can be reduced by gently holding the focus rim - to dampen it.

It looks like the 17-70 is partially weather sealed. Not sure how much, but it has the O-ring on the body.

I really like the extra length - the 45-70mm range I use a lot, and I don't miss the 1mm too much at all.

Resolution and contrast on the 17-70 is higher, but the 16-45 is certainly excellent.

It's a tough call... the 16-45 is available at stupidly low prices, but I wouldn't trade my 17-70 (Only possibly for the DA*16-50, but that's another decision!!!)

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jules
Posted 06/06/2011 - 13:56 Link
Thanks guys...
Cheers Jules...

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rparmar
Posted 06/06/2011 - 16:07 Link
The DA16-45 is an excellent lens with superlative IQ -- better than the DA*16-50 in fact. The DA17-70 is also good from all accounts. So get the cheapest one.

I do have to ask whether you really need such a beast? I find I hardly use it since owning the DA12-24. There's never any time I need to "fill" the focal range between 24mm and 50mm, except with a fast prime.
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Pentaxophile
Posted 06/06/2011 - 16:26 Link
If you didn't have the 12-24mm the 16-45 would be the obvious choice. As you do, I'd go for the DA17-70mm if extra reach and SDM appeal, or the Tamron 17-50mm / new Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 if speed and sharpness are paramount.
MattMatic
Posted 06/06/2011 - 16:34 Link
Somewhat academic now... thread
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rparmar
Posted 06/06/2011 - 17:11 Link
Ah. Just so.
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jules
Posted 06/06/2011 - 21:39 Link
MattMatic wrote:
Somewhat academic now... thread
Possibly we'll have to see how things go...
Cheers Jules...

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