12-24 Interiors

richardmills
Posted 09/05/2015 - 23:24 Link
Has anyone got any interior shots comparing the angle of view of a 12-24 at 12mm and say a 16-50 at 16mm?

Im trying to convince myself i need a 12-24
DrOrloff
Posted 10/05/2015 - 09:02 Link
I have plenty of interior shots at 12mm used to advertise my just sold house. At the wide end then every mm really makes a big difference, especially in tight spaces. I am travelling but I can prepare some examples in a few days time if you don't get any in the meantime. I also have a 12-24mm in the classifieds.
johnha
Posted 10/05/2015 - 11:32 Link
The problem with very wide rectilinear lenses in cramped spaces is that you can get significant perspective distortion (it depends on the subject). Objects further away from the camera appear much smaller - the best example I can think of is a snooker table on TV - it doesn't look rectangular. For subjects where everything is at relatively similar distances from the camera (most landscapes etc.) this isn't a problem. It can also be used to good effect separating a close-up subject from the background.

For cramped interior shots this exaggerated perspective can make rooms look bigger (useful for selling houses!) and may/may not be useful in your needs. I don't have the 12-24 (but have an FA20-35 used on film which gives a similar perspective and I've used an 18mm rectilinear on film). Instead I went for the DA10-17 Fisheye - in cramped spaces the FE distortion is easier on my eyes (and many report it can be de-fished fairly easily).

John.
richardmills
Posted 10/05/2015 - 11:41 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
I have plenty of interior shots at 12mm used to advertise my just sold house. At the wide end then every mm really makes a big difference, especially in tight spaces. I am travelling but I can prepare some examples in a few days time if you don't get any in the meantime. I also have a 12-24mm in the classifieds.
Yes please. Im really looking for side to side 12 vs 16mm if you have any.
richardmills
Posted 10/05/2015 - 11:48 Link
johnha wrote:

Instead I went for the DA10-17 Fisheye - in cramped spaces the FE distortion is easier on my eyes (and many report it can be de-fished fairly easily).
I have the 10-17 which i use currently for interiors as i find the 16 not wide enough. I never thought about trying to de-fish it though.

Im just trying to sell it to myself as another useful reason to have a super wide. I use my 16-50 as my walk about and i cant recall a time when the 16 wasnt wide enough outside so im struggling with the idea of carrying the 12-24 as well.
DrOrloff
Posted 10/05/2015 - 15:52 Link
I find ultra wide is quite a different style. I find it most useful for scenes where the foreground is the real feature - I have posted a picture of barleyfields in the gallery to illustrate; to impart the enormity of a landscape - I find it works best in a bleak mode as all pretty background and midground features recede; in tight spaces such as river scenes and interiors, The 12-24 is ideal for me for these uses, You do get perspective distortions when the camera isn't levelled but the rectilinear performance is very good, edge sharpness is important, i'll post comparitives when I can.
Edited by DrOrloff: 10/05/2015 - 15:52
MattMatic
Posted 10/05/2015 - 16:11 Link
You need one

The DA*50-135, DA*16-50 and DA12-24 are essentially all I use. As mentioned, at 12mm the composition can be challenging as it's so wide. For interiors the DA12-24 is excellent. Might be able to dig out some shots later...

Matt
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
(For gallery, tips and links)
womble
Posted 10/05/2015 - 17:07 Link
12mm
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Angelsey Abbey ( par Kris Lockyear, on ipernity

15mm
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Angelsey Abbey (4) par Kris Lockyear, on ipernity

14mm
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Angelsey Abbey (6) par Kris Lockyear, on ipernity

24mm
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Angelsey Abbey (7) par Kris Lockyear, on ipernity
Kris Lockyear
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richardmills
Posted 17/05/2015 - 10:16 Link
Thanks for the pics.

Does anyone have anything, or be able to take a quick snap, at 16 and 12 of the same thing so i can get an idea of the field of view difference?
DrOrloff
Posted 17/05/2015 - 12:09 Link
I was going to take some real world comparisons in the woods and the local church but I haven't got around to it yet, so here are the requested snaps from the 12-24. ISO 100 at f10. You can see how good the rectilinear performance is along with overall sharpness and corner sharpness:

16mm

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12mm

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Defragged
Posted 17/05/2015 - 12:51 Link
Hello,

The Sigma 8-16mm is also very worthy of consideration for indoor shots. It has surprisingly little distortion for such an extreme wide angle lens and is very affordable new.

Have a browse through the 8-16 lens club here link and prepare to be impressed.

Decisions, decisions!
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richardmills
Posted 17/05/2015 - 21:14 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
I was going to take some real world comparisons in the woods and the local church but I haven't got around to it yet, so here are the requested snaps from the 12-24. ISO 100 at f10. You can see how good the rectilinear performance is along with overall sharpness and corner sharpness:

16mm

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12mm

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Thank you. Thats just what i was after.
richardmills
Posted 17/05/2015 - 21:14 Link
Defragged wrote:
Hello,

The Sigma 8-16mm is also very worthy of consideration for indoor shots. It has surprisingly little distortion for such an extreme wide angle lens and is very affordable new.

Have a browse through the 8-16 lens club here link and prepare to be impressed.

Decisions, decisions!
I hadnt conciddered anything other than the 12-24 to be honest, Ill take a look. Thanks

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