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K5II choice considerations - a new take
It's not a waste of time at all IMO. It's all fun and that's what it's all about isn't it? :) I agree. Maybe it's obvious (it hasn't been referred to so far), but comparisons can only really be valid if the same lens is used for pictures taken with and without an AA filter? Doesn't matter if ...
Posted by MrB on 17/06/2013 - 23:53
K5II choice considerations - a new take
...the production cost of most of the 'extra' features that differentiated very similar Sony camcorder models was only about 20-30p per 'extra', say £1.50 - £2 per step up... This isn't quite the same thing. It's referring to enabling extra electronic features, which are indeed very low cost. In ...
Posted by johnriley on 18/06/2013 - 00:04
K5II choice considerations - a new take
...the production cost of most of the 'extra' features that differentiated very similar Sony camcorder models was only about 20-30p per 'extra', say £1.50 - £2 per step up... This isn't quite the same thing. It's referring to enabling extra electronic features, which are indeed very low cost. In ...
Posted by Smeggypants on 18/06/2013 - 00:28
K5II choice considerations - a new take
There's a GBP60 difference between the II & IIs at B&H. The IIs is GBP698 and the instant rebate offer ends at end of June so maybe something new....a filter-less, mirror-less K5 III or K3 Mk I? Best regards
Posted by K10D on 18/06/2013 - 06:13
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Surely it would also be dependent on the glass you're putting in front of the sensor? If you have a couple of non professional zooms and a prime or two of older vintage for example perhaps you may be in for a rude awakening with the 'S' type sensor as it may well highlight any lens shortcomings and ...
Posted by gwing on 18/06/2013 - 06:14
K5II choice considerations - a new take
.... From what has been said already it appears that the sensor on the 's' is actually simpler because it lacks a filter. If this is the case then Pentax should be providing the 'better' but simplified filter (assuming it is actually 'better') as the de facto new standard and including it for the sa...
Posted by McGregNi on 18/06/2013 - 16:01
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Philip, good point. I do think that Pentax themselves should be doing more to justify the price difference between the two models. There isn't exactly a wealth of information at ones's fingertips to peruse and make a judgement one way or the other as to whether it is worth it or not. In realit...
Posted by 1stEverPentax on 18/06/2013 - 15:46
K5II choice considerations - a new take
You're missing that there is a filter to replace the AA filter, otherwise focus would be off. It's a clear filter, but obviously coated as per the original. It's been very well documented in tests on the internet and in magazines, covering Pentax and Nikon but also many new cameras that also have...
Posted by johnriley on 18/06/2013 - 15:59
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Removing the AA filter isn't going to appeal to all potographers because there is a slightly higher risk of moire. So it makes sense to offer the K5iis as an option. And the reason the price is higher is partly to pay for having a second line of cameras being produced. And partly because, in basic t...
Posted by Pentaxophile on 18/06/2013 - 16:03
K5II choice considerations - a new take
If more and more cameras with this sensor are now coming minus the AA filter layer surely the extra cost attributed to smaller runs is pretty much negated? Previously like when Nikon have done it aye understandable.
Posted by InFESTation on 18/06/2013 - 17:45
K5II choice considerations - a new take
If more and more cameras with this sensor are now coming minus the AA filter layer surely the extra cost attributed to smaller runs is pretty much negated It's not a factor when there's no choice. When there is a choice then both need to be handled separately so the relative numbers will be signific...
Posted by johnriley on 18/06/2013 - 17:55
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Thanks to everyone for their explanations, the technical side of the argument is much clearer now (no pun intended). Regarding the financial and marketing angle..If both sensor/filter combinations are similar cost then why not just produce both versions at the same price and let the customer pick...
Posted by 1stEverPentax on 18/06/2013 - 18:04
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Regarding the financial and marketing angle..If both sensor/filter combinations are similar cost then why not just produce both versions at the same price and let the customer pick which he/she prefers in the same way that they might choose a white camera over a blue one or a red over a black. Must...
Posted by simonkit on 18/06/2013 - 19:12
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Checking the File Data - A Shock Discovery We would all expect, logically, that the 's' version of this shot would show more definition (less blur) 'out the can'. This should be inherent by design. There is no AA filter over the sensor of the 's' camera creating deliberate blur. The files I have ...
Posted by McGregNi on 19/06/2013 - 15:30
K5II choice considerations - a new take
It seems logical that all Pentax cameras apply some default sharpening to the RAW files to compensate for the AA filter, except the Kiis, where additional sharpening is likely to produce an over-sharpened appearance. If money was no object, I would therefore go for the Kiis. It's better to have a...
Posted by Pentaxophile on 19/06/2013 - 16:50
K5II choice considerations - a new take
As I understood it the raw files sooc should be just that raw files, straight from the sensor. From what I am aware the software should sharpen out the effect of the AA filter on files from cameras with the filter hence standard raw conversions looking slightly sharper with no user sharpening app...
Posted by cabstar on 19/06/2013 - 17:45
K5II choice considerations - a new take
As I understood it the raw files sooc should be just that raw files, straight from the sensor. From what I am aware the software should sharpen out the effect of the AA filter on files from cameras with the filter hence standard raw conversions looking slightly sharper with no user sharpening app...
Posted by Smeggypants on 19/06/2013 - 19:33
K5II choice considerations - a new take
Once the makers get there act together, the next generation of DSLRs will be sans filter. With the constant upgrade of technology the filter is not needed any moire:lol::lol: Cheers Dave
Posted by FAT8BIKER on 19/06/2013 - 22:10
K5II choice considerations - a new take
GETTING NEARER TO FINAL CONCLUSIONS So, how will these new results from Photoshop affect the decision making? Now I need to compare my two efforts to see which would be my first choice for my large print in terms of 'good' detail. I go back to my earlier version of the K5IIs image (run thr...
Posted by ChrisMak on 25/06/2013 - 22:57
K5II choice considerations - a new take
CONCLUSIONS - MY 'NEW TAKE' & A PERSONAL CHOICE OK - its taken a while, and just on a single sample scene! I don't usually bother getting so close up & personal to the image. But I have enjoyed the effort and have learned more about how shots respond to these sharpening & detailing processes - al...
Posted by McGregNi on 26/06/2013 - 06:14
