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Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

As has been said MANY times before, the reason the FF canon's and nikons are so big and heavy is due to the Pro features such as ruggedness / batteries / grips not the actual sensor size! Compare Nikon D3s with F5 (say) - they are that size because it suits Journos, not because they need to be......

Posted by flossie on 31/05/2010 - 07:39

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

I bought a Kx specifically for its low-light capabilities at 1/4 the price of a D700... and size was an issue (at the time... now I've got more used to it, not so much now). Also the backwards-compatability appeals to me (I like old MF prime lenses and dislike manufacturers deliberatly breaking comp...

Posted by flossie on 31/05/2010 - 09:33

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

[quote:3496ace15f="flossie"]a bigger sensor will always produce a better image though [quote] Yes but there may come a time that APS-C produce quality that's more then good enough... then why would you go for a bigger sensor, camera and lenses if you don't use the extra quality? The current APS-...

Posted by Anvh on 31/05/2010 - 10:08

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

There is not that much difference in depth of field between APS-C and FF cameras. The larger depth of field from the small sensor is offset by the larger enlargement ratio needed to have the same picture size. If I take my Bronica with a 75-2.8 and my 35mm SLR 50-1.4, set them both on hyperfocal, ...

Posted by pentaxian450 on 06/06/2010 - 00:57

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

I was hoping that a Pentax Fx body would appear. As mentioned above, lenses like the 15mm and of course the 28 shift would be usable once again. I would love a 31mm Ltd but why buy it to put on a body it was not made for? I want it on FF to use all of the glass. I could use it on a 35mm film body...

Posted by K10D on 06/06/2010 - 08:40

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

Reading some comments on here and on other forums, I can't help wondering why so many people want to see a full-frame Pentax. Personally, I think if Pentax were to produce one it would be a step backwards. I think that new sensor technology will eventually make full-frame cameras obsolete. At th...

Posted by KZ on 06/06/2010 - 09:28

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

The things that need avoiding like added cost for no benefit have been avoided by Pentax. The sensor that might well have been used in the MZ-D was used by Contax in a camera that cost thousands and delivered poor quality. Leica have struggled with digital, again with huge costs for those who ...

Posted by johnriley on 06/06/2010 - 09:49

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

I agree with the Contax and Leica scenario John. The fact of the matter is that the manufacturers have slowly replicated the field of view with lenses for APS that were available with 35mm format. Good business sense? With the bulk, weight and cost issue, that would rule out the 645D then? ...

Posted by K10D on 06/06/2010 - 10:14

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

I agree with you K10D but want to go on a bit about this line. There would probably be less people buying a 645D than a FF (135) Pentax if it were available. I don't think so. The main market is the advance entry level and the K-X is super effective there. All the people who wanted 135 format al ...

Posted by K10D on 06/06/2010 - 14:11

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

You always had the option of the sweet spot Kris, you just framed and cropped to suite. I suspect that a lot of people look at focal length and price rather than what had soft edges. Only by throwing away 1/3 of your negative (i.e. 1/3 of your image data) whereas as 15mpx APS-C sensor has the same q...

Posted by womble on 06/06/2010 - 14:53

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

You always had the option of the sweet spot Kris, you just framed and cropped to suite. I suspect that a lot of people look at focal length and price rather than what had soft edges. Only by throwing away 1/3 of your negative (i.e. 1/3 of your image data) whereas as 15mpx APS-C sensor has the same q...

Posted by K10D on 06/06/2010 - 15:01

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

Stefan let's look at just 135 FF and MF. If all the people who wanted a FF have jumped ship then why not those who wanted MF as the Mamiya DM22 is cheaper than the 645D and has a slightly larger sensor. That's indeed an option and possibility but the camera is not the biggest expense that are the...

Posted by Anvh on 06/06/2010 - 15:11

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

I was hoping that a Pentax Fx body would appear. As mentioned above, lenses like the 15mm and of course the 28 shift would be usable once again. I would love a 31mm Ltd but why buy it to put on a body it was not made for? Er, because it works just as well if not better on APS-C? Good enough reas...

Posted by George Lazarette on 06/06/2010 - 16:21

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

I was hoping that a Pentax Fx body would appear. As mentioned above, lenses like the 15mm and of course the 28 shift would be usable once again. I would love a 31mm Ltd but why buy it to put on a body it was not made for? Er, because it works just as well if not better on APS-C? Good enough reas...

Posted by K10D on 06/06/2010 - 16:36

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

The 645D is another question altogether, and appeals to a totally different market segment. I can't see Pentax trying to break into two major and distinct segments (Medium Format and FF) at the same time, especially as both are high value products. John, WRT Pentax R&D, where are their notes for the...

Posted by K10D on 06/06/2010 - 17:30

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

As for high ISO, we won't have to wait too long to see APS-C on par with FF. Just look were APS-C was with high ISO two years ago... APS-C will never be on par with 135format because the sensor is bigger, it means the amount of pixels will be higher or that the pixels will be larger so a larger sen...

Posted by Anvh on 08/06/2010 - 01:03

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

APS-C will never be on par with 135format because the sensor is bigger By this logic alone we should all be using 20" x 16" glass plates for stunning contact prints. The reason why 35mm became universal was that the resolution on a 16" x 12" print just about equates with the resolution of the hum...

Posted by johnriley on 08/06/2010 - 08:28

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

APS-C at 14 MP is plenty sharp enough for me. I would however, like to see an improvement in sensor noise at higher ISO. I have now invested too much money in DA lenses to start again for full frame for my hobby. Although saying that, I do have quite a few manual focus FF lenses, which is why I st...

Posted by MarkD on 08/06/2010 - 11:27

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

14MP!.. 10MP!?. Decadence! - 6MP is more than good enough, for me. In fact I'd even be happy to drop to 5, or even 4 Megapixels, if they were on a FF sensor. And if that made it easier and cheaper to produce... Even better!

Posted by mowog on 08/06/2010 - 12:12

Full-frame Pentax? I hope not!

APS-C will never be on par with 135format because the sensor is bigger Granted there will be further improvements, but you won't see it in normal conditions, only extreme ones. Don't forget that no-one ever made the most of their 35mm cameras anyway, apart from those who used Kodak Technical Pan fil...

Posted by Anvh on 08/06/2010 - 12:28

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