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A Black & White Soft Ice

I really like this shot but I do agree that the children look a bit detached from the background. In some ways that makes it a bit different. The bokeh of the tree in the middle looks almost painted on. I assume you were using the camera's built in flash? Yes, this is the work of the 'pop-up', a ...

Posted by McGregNi on 16/05/2014 - 09:03

Stained glass windows and HDR

After spending a little time a few weeks back arguing against the use of HDR for landscapes in another thread, I decided to give it a whirl in some of the shots I took in All Soul's Church in Halifax. I took 8 shots at f/8, ISO 100 with shutter speeds ranging from 1/15sec to 8 secs, using a Penta...

Posted by andrewk on 17/05/2014 - 00:33

Stained glass windows and HDR

Its a very good job Andrew, well balanced but with plenty of deep shadow retained, and of course I would agree that the HDR was the right approach! (Don't you think my K7 could have done it in one shot? :D) The brightness on the glass is ideal for full detail - if anything the result is almost to...

Posted by McGregNi on 17/05/2014 - 01:20

Stained glass windows and HDR

The solution suggested by smeggy is very intricate and difficult - layer-blending windows is never easy as you have to use a brush stroke over every tiny detail of window frame to give it the interior lighting, and it is a painstaking task to get the right brush softness to make a perfect divide bet...

Posted by McGregNi on 20/05/2014 - 17:42

Stained glass windows and HDR

The solution suggested by smeggy is very intricate and difficult - layer-blending windows is never easy as you have to use a brush stroke over every tiny detail of window frame to give it the interior lighting, and it is a painstaking task to get the right brush softness to make a perfect divide bet...

Posted by Smeggypants on 21/05/2014 - 04:31

Stained glass windows and HDR

FWIW, this is the default output of a HDR produced by LR/Enfuse from the 0.5sec image and one three stops lighter (4sec). I think HDR & LR/Enfuse just went on the back burner again. It doesn't seem to have anything to offer for this kind of image. I think now, for this kind of image, Smegg...

Posted by andrewk on 21/05/2014 - 09:40

Stained glass windows and HDR

I think LR/Enfuse is actually quite good. It can do either HDR or focus stacking. I'm sure it can produce better results than I have seen so far - especially if I don't try (too much) to "improve" the image afterwards. :) Up to press I have only played with it. Maybe I need to spend more seri...

Posted by andrewk on 21/05/2014 - 14:32

Stained glass windows and HDR

All this faffing about with layers, HDR or whatever brings me back to my original point. Decide what it is you are supposed to be photographing. If its the windows expose for the windows. If you're doing a church interior expose for the darker stonework. In this series its the window and the colour...

Posted by davidtrout on 21/05/2014 - 16:18

Stained glass windows and HDR

All this faffing about with layers, HDR or whatever brings me back to my original point. Decide what it is you are supposed to be photographing. If its the windows expose for the windows. If you're doing a church interior expose for the darker stonework. In this series its the window and the colour...

Posted by michaelblue on 21/05/2014 - 16:21

Stained glass windows and HDR

All this faffing about with layers, HDR or whatever brings me back to my original point. Decide what it is you are supposed to be photographing. If its the windows expose for the windows. If you're doing a church interior expose for the darker stonework. In this series its the window and the colour...

Posted by Smeggypants on 21/05/2014 - 23:23

Stained glass windows and HDR

OK, there was a fair amount of light inside Wells Cathedral, but this was done in one take, no separate layers. There was some interior light on the beautiful Mendip stone while the white bits in the window are not blown, it was clear glass. I had to do some selective exposure adjustments using the ...

Posted by Smeggypants on 22/05/2014 - 00:28

Stained glass windows and HDR

[quote:3496ace15f="davidtrout"] With the K-5 there's a nice sized Dynamic range so that only one exposure is needed in many situations as you can raise shadows a great deal at low ISOs, however often there's simply too much range in the scene and two exposures are needed. I don't know if you c...

Posted by davidtrout on 22/05/2014 - 10:00

Stained glass windows and HDR

Going back to Andrews 3 posted crops just above, I do think the 3rd one there is most realistic - that is quite bright light coming in the window afterall. So long as it tapers off to shadow fairly quickly from the window surrounds into the interior then that will work very well I think. I have ...

Posted by McGregNi on 23/05/2014 - 18:53

Stained glass windows and HDR

That's much better Andrew. The blue tinge that has been mentioned is probably nothing more than light shining through the intense blue glass of the window, so trying to remove that would be futile really. Some of it is, but if you look back at some earlier versions it's also the white balance affect...

Posted by Smeggypants on 23/05/2014 - 20:11

Stained glass windows and HDR

An interesting result and better than the HDRs I generated using LR/Enfuse. The glazed areas seem short on contrast compared with the single/two exposure versions and yet the stonework seems to have too much contrast which almost shouts HDR at you. It's not overtly cartoony, but the Photomatix HDR...

Posted by andrewk on 24/05/2014 - 10:02

Stained glass windows and HDR

Sorry I coldn't bounce back quickly there - its been an offline weekend with a broadband failure. Great thread indeed - these HDR ones do kick off - but I do wish we got many more opinions on it, not just us the 'usual suspects'! Come on people, what do you think? Its Abdrew's shot, so he has th...

Posted by McGregNi on 26/05/2014 - 13:13

Stained glass windows and HDR

Sorry I coldn't bounce back quickly there - its been an offline weekend with a broadband failure. Great thread indeed - these HDR ones do kick off - but I do wish we got many more opinions on it, not just us the 'usual suspects'! Come on people, what do you think? Its Abdrew's shot, so he has th...

Posted by Smeggypants on 26/05/2014 - 16:21

Stained glass windows and HDR

Doesn't quite sparkle like the HDR. It's not blurred in the corners of the crop, either. You want sparkle and blur in the stonework - I can do that, honest!! :D :D Maybe Photomatix is a bit weak in image rotation/alignment and that has resulted in the blur. There's some Open Source software c...

Posted by andrewk on 28/05/2014 - 00:26

Ranmore Common

Thanks for the input guys. :) Oh yes, that car, I was going to clone it out - lucky I forgot to :wink: I think you're saying there Bob that there's not a clear enough point of focus, a centre or subject? Fair enough. The images for me are of the 'place', of the 'scene' - I wanted them to convey a...

Posted by McGregNi on 17/05/2014 - 18:00

Ranmore Common

9 is a crop of 7, its the same photo :o but looking on the website now I see there is a slight difference in colour intensity - I have no explanation for that at all - it was just opened again in PS CS2, cropped down more then resaved the exact same way using the 'Save for Web' dialogue. Could it ju...

Posted by McGregNi on 17/05/2014 - 23:31

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