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Blythman
Posted 08/08/2011 - 16:09 Link
philstaff wrote:
dcweather wrote:
Well I've recently acquired the Sigma 150-500mm and good as it appears to be I wouldn't want to be pointing at the sky for long. It's blooming heavy!

Nwver realy thought about the wait and support needed but with spinal damage it looks like I will also have to take this point into consideration as well. Thanks for the feed back so far guys.
Ian

Bear in mind the Sigma 100-300 is heavy too at 1.44kg. The 120-400 is 1.64kg while the 150-500 is 1.78kg. In comparison the Pentax 55-300 is only 0.44kg
Alan


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Anvh
Posted 08/08/2011 - 17:49 Link
Blythman wrote:
Bear in mind the Sigma 100-300 is heavy too at 1.44kg. The 120-400 is 1.64kg while the 150-500 is 1.78kg. In comparison the Pentax 55-300 is only 0.44kg

Indeed it's not a light lens but I beleive the balance is a b it better though then the 150-500, that one has one massive front element.

philstaff wrote:
that would be good Stefan if you have also photos using the 1.4 converter attached to the lens.
Ian

I'm installing some of the photographic software i hadn't done yet after that i'll upload a photo.
Don't have one with the 1.4 converter though, sorry.
Stefan
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bretti_kivi
Posted 08/08/2011 - 19:47 Link
I should have a 1.4x for my 100-300 soon.

at 250mm, 1/320, f5 (!!), ISO 125:

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that's on a Monopod. It really is a heavy thing; it brings the weight of a gripped K5 rapidly towards 3kg.

I can do some 100% crops, but to be honest, if you're worried about weight, then the best thing really is the 55-300 as everything else weighs a ton.

Another alternative which isn't *quite* so heavy is the Tok 80-400. Having until recently had one of those, I think it's really rather good and certainly holds its own against the 100-300, considering it's half the price - at least - and here's the proviso - on a K5. Because the 100-300 is a constant f4 and the Tok needs to be stopped down to f8 at least, meaning that where I can use the f5 of the 100-300 and complain because only the rear of the car is in focus (my fault), at f8 the whole thing works:
300mm, 1/800, f9, ISO640:
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I like the compactness of the Tok (it fits in a Lens Case 4S, whereas the 100-300 needs a 4 - it's nearly a foot long) but it's still 800g or so and without the collar I'd find it unmanageable after a time. The Siggy was an opportunity to be taken and so far I'm reasonably impressed. However, it's neither cheap nor light and I can see me going for a 70-200 or even a 55-300 to complement it at some point for the times when I simply don't want to lug it around...

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
Mike-P
Posted 08/08/2011 - 20:12 Link
Sigma 100-300mm f4 with Sigma 2x teleconverter.
600mm handheld ... AF is a bit sluggish though.

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Fallow Deer in the New Forest by Mike.Pursey, on Flickr
philstaff
Posted 09/08/2011 - 10:30 Link
Thanks Stefan,Bret and Mike I will check out the Tok Bret suggested. However looking at the shot of the Deer with the pentax and converter this looks a very good option. Would a 1.4 give a better IQ and also how much focal length would I loose compared to a 2x converter. Thinking back to the show I would imagine a focal length of 400 to 500 would have got me the shots I missed from the show by cropping the origanal photo tight to the plane.
Regards Ian
philstaff
Posted 09/08/2011 - 10:31 Link
Sorry should have read Sigma and converter.
Ian
bretti_kivi
Posted 09/08/2011 - 11:21 Link
the 1.4 / 2x comparison was posted recently by - i think - thoughton - and the 1.4 is slightly better than the 2.x. I'm interested to see how the 100-300 behaves with a 1.4 on the back, as I will have the combo hopefully in a couple of weeks.

100-300 x 1.4 = 140-420mm / f5.6

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.
philstaff
Posted 10/08/2011 - 11:34 Link
Thanks Bret that reach would probably have got the photos I missed on the day.
Ian
Mike-P
Posted 10/08/2011 - 11:56 Link
I am (weather permitting) going to be using the Sigma 100-300mm f4 and 1.4x teleconverter at the Bournemouth air show next week rather than the Bigma. I want to see how they compare IQ and AF wise and as it is on for 4 days it seems the ideal opportunity.
sam-joseph
Posted 10/08/2011 - 12:03 Link
Here's another vote for the Tokina 80-400. Solid build, very usable images once stopped down a bit, and a great long zoom. I think there's one on ebay at the moment 330597880388 that looks like a good copy.
Looks like the seller also has a classic 35-105 A series. Hmmmm, might even throw a bid on......

Regards
Sam-Joseph
Pentax K7, Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.5, Sigma 70-200 f2.8 APO EX, Sigma 70-300 APO, Sigma 1.4x TC, Vivitar 2x TC. Takumar 135mm f2.5, SMC Pentax A 50mm 1:1.7, SMC Pentax -M 1:4 200mm, Pentax X70
Edited by sam-joseph: 10/08/2011 - 12:06
Mike-P
Posted 10/08/2011 - 12:30 Link
Quick and dirty test of the 100-300mm f4 with 1.4x teleconverter.
Nothing done apart from the crop ... af speed was reasonable, if it can lock onto a seagull then it should be ok with a jet or suchlike. Needs a bit of PP work though.

450mm f/11 1/400

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Sigma 100-300mm f4 test by Mike.Pursey, on Flickr

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Sigma 100-300mm f4 test by Mike.Pursey, on Flickr
philstaff
Posted 10/08/2011 - 14:53 Link
Thanks Mike thats good of you to share these they look fine to me Im going to weigh up the pros and cons between using a converter or have a look at a 150 500 or similar and see how I manage the weight.
Ian

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