Some portraits for critique
something not quite right.
I use a Pentax K10D, on a MacBook with LightRoom (vers 1.3 + beta 2)
http://www.ba-joseph.co.uk/gallery
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
I'm not one for portraits myself, but number 3 in first post initially looks great, but is there some movement?
Possibly. It was 1/30s at F5.6. The camera was on the tripod, obviously, and I was firing the shots with the remote.
The 3rd shot is unsharpened though, and does look softer than the other two, which have a little USM applied.
something not quite right.
Can you be a little more specific?
something not quite right.
Can you be a little more specific?
Did the models eyes move? face is sharp, eyes look blurred.... I think.
On closer examination, there seems to be a general softness, but it is the eyes that the main problem is (for me anyway).
I use a Pentax K10D, on a MacBook with LightRoom (vers 1.3 + beta 2)
http://www.ba-joseph.co.uk/gallery
something not quite right.
Can you be a little more specific?
Did the models eyes move? face is sharp, eyes look blurred.... I think.
On closer examination, there seems to be a general softness, but it is the eyes that the main problem is (for me anyway).
What do you think now? The first one is as before, and the second one is the same shot, with the white balance fixed, slightly different levels, a little USM and a little attention to the eyes (too much?).
Overexposure does the samething.
posing the model to hide flaws..(ie straight on to hide a nose, 2/3 uneven eyes or scars, and profile to hide half the face, profile with hair hanging down to hide most or all of the face, tilts and angles for double chins etc).
I think you're using old, perhaps forgotton, hollywood era, pre-photoshop in camera image touch ups!
I think the worst thing to happen to portrait photographers, was competition judges some time ago came up with "standards".
Basic portrait 101, 3lights, 2 umbrellas, 1/2 to three stops difference between highlight and shadow, 5 or so basic poses......
All of a sudden some big retail chain comes along and says "hey the equipment is expensive, but any minimum wage earning kid can push the button...
Now the equipment isn't all that expensive either....
So what to do?
I'm trying to sell the photoshoot itself as a great experience.
I try to create images that the client will love.
I need to build a relationship with them and learn what appeals to them individually.
So no matter what criticisms you get on your work, remember You need to be your own worst critic on your technique, and she'll be your worst critic on the final print. You only have to make ONE person happy...her.
Perhaps think about a little more drama in the lighting set up. A large window is a good source of natural light, or a single softbox perhaps if you want to use studio flash.
The other thing to think about are the eyes. The eyes catch our attention and should generally be sharp.
Have a look at lots of images on EPZ and see the good portraits there for ideas.
You've made a good start but ut does need refining and I hope these comments will help you.
I think the biggest problem here is the lighting, which is very flat and dull. You need some gentle "modelling" of the features and more vitality in the colour. Would this grace the pages of a glossy magazine as it stands?
Perhaps think about a little more drama in the lighting set up. A large window is a good source of natural light, or a single softbox perhaps if you want to use studio flash.
Ok, thanks John. Could you elaborate a little on exactly what you mean with some of the specifics?
- what exactly is meant by "modelling"?
- "vitality" in the colour? Do you mean adjustments in the saturation, a background that contrasts more with both skin and hair, or what?
As it happens, I was using a large window as sole source of light to the left side as you look at the photo, together with a large piece of white card on the other side to reduce the shadows that were cast to the right as you look at it. It does make for more uniform (is that what you mean by "flat"?) lighting, but the results seemed better than without the card.
I take the point about eye sharpness. And I wasn't hoping for a Vogue cover just yet either...
Modelling is giving shape to an object by controlling the light and shadows to give the desired shape. By filling the shadows completely with your reflector you have eliminated them and ended up with flat, even light. Try moving the reflector further away to allow some shadow without it becoming too harsh.
As regards the colour I'll try to link in an image of my own here to show what I mean, or at least what I like:
This has much richer colours and is lit by a single main light as I recall. Pentax k10D with 16-45mm lens. Does that help to explain what I mean?
My favourite composition was the 5th image (the one in reply to Brian's comments). Nice and tight on the face, just needs the eyes to be sharper. I can't tell if Jayne moved a bit or if the focusing is off. Also, perhaps it could be a little brighter with slightly increased contrast? That might be this monitor though...
Keep at it - remember the Vogue covers would be highly photoshopped to get 'perfect' skin, eyes etc, but your pics are good as far as I'm concerned.
Dan
Nonetheless, I think JR's points are all valid. The secret Chris needs to learn is to capture the vitality of John's picture whilst retaining the simplicity of his.
A little theory and a bit more practice is required, methinks.
Keep 'em coming, Chris. There's lots of potential in your pictures. And the model is a sweetie. (As is John's.)
G
You have to get the technical aspects right to be able to express the emotional content in the way you see it.
Practice is the key.
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The light is daylight, and the photos are unedited, apart from a bit of cropping, and a trace of levels and USM at times. I probably ought to adjust the white balance a bit, but I'll get around to that in due course.