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Sigma 10-20mm Lens for Pentax K20D

Ciaran
Posted 26/08/2010 - 07:05 Link
Hi there. I am seeking advice on the purchase of a wide angle lens for Pentax K20d. I have my eye on a Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC, and its going at a good price €450. Can you tell me what its like, can I assume it will fit the camera ?? Also the HSM version of this lens, is it compatible with K20d. There is also a Tamron 12-24mm, anybody got any experience with this.I want to do some landscape work with these.
Looking forward to hearing your recommendations/observations.
Ciaran
johnriley
Posted 26/08/2010 - 07:19 - Helpful Comment Link
Both these lenses have been well received. A better lens is the Pentax 12-24mm, especially as straight lines stay straight without distortion, but the price is much higher.

Hopefully someone who owns the lensaes in question will be along soon to give you some of their thoughts on them.
Best regards, John
Ciaran
Posted 26/08/2010 - 07:25 Link
johnriley wrote:
Both these lenses have been well received. A better lens is the Pentax 12-24mm, especially as straight lines stay straight without distortion, but the price is much higher.

Hopefully someone who owns the lensaes in question will be along soon to give you some of their thoughts on them.

Ciaran
Posted 26/08/2010 - 07:27 Link
Thanks very much John. Yes I guess Pentax 12-24mm would be a better lens, but it's about €300 more expensive. Thanks for taking the time, much appreciated.
regards
Ciaran
Pentaxophile
Posted 26/08/2010 - 07:45 - Helpful Comment Link
The 10-20 is great value. My brother in law uses the lens almost exclusively for his landscape photos, and has sold many lovely prints.
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thoughton
Posted 26/08/2010 - 08:21 - Helpful Comment Link
General consensus is that the Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 is great. The faster, newer, more expensive Sigma 10-20 f3.5 is also good but not quite as sharp. The Tamron 10-24 has the best range but has the 'least good' reputation (meaning they are all supposed to be good lenses, but the Tamron is the one least raved about).

I have the old Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6, it's an awesome lens. I can't see any appreciable difference between photos from it and someone elses Pentax 12-24 (except that 10mm is noticeably wider than 12mm and over here in the UK costs £400 instead of £900 ).
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flossie
Posted 26/08/2010 - 08:25 - Helpful Comment Link
As I recall, the older(4-5.6) version of the 10-20 is considered much better than the newer (3.5) version.

I don't think the older version ever had HSM in the Pentax mount (most Sigma lenses are still screwdrive for Pentax) despite how they are listed. The new one does, though. I'm pretty sure the K20d can use HSM lenses though, as they work the same as Pentax SDM just a different TLA (three letter acronym).

I'd certainly recommend it if you can get it at a good price, they are quite common second hand as its a popular lens and (I believe) very reliable.

OTOH, the Pentax 12-24 is fanastic but horribly pricey - I only have one because I got it at an exceptional deal, otherwise I'd have bought the Sigma. Whichever you get, you'll love it - but make sure you've got some software that can do lens-correction, as with either lens there is some distortion at the wide-end - not a problem with landscapes but any buildings will need some slight attention.
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johnwhit
Posted 26/08/2010 - 09:55 - Helpful Comment Link
I have the Sigma 10-20 4-5.6 it's a very good lens, works perfectly on the K20D, non HSM but not really needed on a lens I use for lanscape
Less distortion than the newer f/3.5 version and smaller filter size 77mm as opposed to 82mm, apparently sharper at the edges too. The Pentax 12-24 is very good, constant f/4 aperture, very sharp, lovely colour rendering and contrast, not as wide and more complicated distortion

http://www.photozone.de/pentax/146-sigma-af-10-20mm-f4-56-ex-dc-pentax-k-review-...
http://www.photozone.de/pentax/133-pentax-da-12-24mm-f4-al-ed-if-review--test-re...

Regards,

John
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simonkit
Posted 26/08/2010 - 12:38 - Helpful Comment Link
Unfortunately I'm going against the grain a little again

I owned the Sigma 10-20 but didn't find it to my liking for landscape use so have now sold it. If you haven't already I'd suggest trying one out before buying just to be sure it suits your "style". I much prefer the Pentax DA 17-70

Simon
Gwyn
Posted 26/08/2010 - 12:45 - Helpful Comment Link
I'm with Simon I'm afraid. I too had a Sigma 10-20 but sold it, as I didn't like it for landscapes. I also prefer the Pentax 17-70.

I agree if you can you should try before you buy to see if it suits you. It is an expensive mistake to make otherwise.
Pentaxophile
Posted 26/08/2010 - 13:26 - Helpful Comment Link
Or buy second hand. These lenses are in demand so you won't have trouble selling it on.
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MrCynical
Posted 26/08/2010 - 14:25 - Helpful Comment Link
I own the 10-20 f4-5.6, and when I bought it a few months ago I had the same dilemma so I'll give the advantages of each as I saw them then:

10-20 f4-5.6 (old one):
*Sharper
*Better distortion (old one has 'weird' distortion at 10mm and then is fine for the rest of the range, while the new one has barrel distortion for more of the range)
*Lens is cheaper (by about £50)
*Cheaper and easier to obtain filters (77mm on this vs 82mm on the new one)

10-20 f3.5 (new one):
*Faster (one-and-a-third stops at the long end), which could be important for interiors or lowish light (though remember you can go down to 1/15 shutter speed at the wide end!)
*Silent HSM focusing
*I think, though I'm not certain, that it has quick shift (ie the ability to use the manual focus ring while in AF mode)

I was originally looking at the DA12-24 but gave up when Walters (the last store to have them at what I considered an acceptable price) sold out. It really is stupidly expensive now, but is faster than the old version of the Sigma 10-20 and sharper than both versions.

However, having gotten used to my 10-20 I am glad that I didn't get a DA12-24, because I find myself using the Sigma at 10mm the majority of the time: the Sigma 10-20 takes much better photos at 10mm than the DA12-24 does
Edited by MrCynical: 26/08/2010 - 14:32
mille19
Posted 26/08/2010 - 15:34 - Helpful Comment Link
I am currently using a 16-45mm for most of my landscape shots,I was thinking of buying a 10-20mm lens but when I looked at my portfolio saw that hardly any of my shots were at 16mm most were taken between 20-28mm.
I've decided to go for the 21mm prime but will have to save a few more pennies.
PRE99
Posted 26/08/2010 - 16:17 Link
I am using the Sigma 10/20 on K7, Ive had it for about 18 months now and am delighted with it. Pics are pin sharp, but you have to avoid straight lines towards the edges of the frame at the wide end because distortion can be very noticeable. This is not a problem with most landscapes and seascapes. Personally if I hadnt bourght it 18 months ago I would now.
fritzthedog
Posted 26/08/2010 - 21:47 Link
The Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC is by far my favoourite landscape lens on my K20D. I find the results to be in shap, great colours and very pleasing and much superior to any other wide angle I have owned or used (including my Pentax 10-17mm fisheye)

I have not once regretted this purchase. I do agree with the comments about straight lines distorting near the edges - but as I primarily bought it for landscapes - it is not an issue and actually once you understand the potential slight distortion - you can actually use it to your advantage for effects

I sold my Pentax 16-45 6 months after buying this lens as I found it no longer got used at all!

As for the price - Onestop digital in HK are selling it for £337 delivered (€411). I have bought several lenses from them and found them to be very good

Carl
No matter how many lenses I have owned - I have always needed just one more

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