Selling photos on Ebay, is it a good idea?


AuraTodd

Link Posted 04/09/2015 - 09:48
Hi I have been toying with the idea of selling some of my photos on Ebay, can you advise me on this and whether it's a good idea?

Many thanks.
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johnriley

Link Posted 04/09/2015 - 11:06
If people will buy them, why not? It will only cost a very small amount in listing fees to find out, so I would go for it.

I never have sold my own images on eBay, but I guess people will do.
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50mpCMOS

Link Posted 04/09/2015 - 16:11
When selling any type of image (or even having it available on social media such as Facebook)... It's always best to have it watermarked in numerous locations; even going so far as to placing other photo alterations to the image to make it almost unprintable.

Cannot begin to mention how many images get borrowed and/or stolen from photographers. Once it crosses a countries borders it's next to impossible to do anything about it, without considerable legal fees.

IF selling print photographs also try to make every effort that the print photograph contains something such as ones logo on front and as much information on the back of the photograph. Even if it needs to go so far as to change one aspect of each and every photograph that is sold, and to log whom it was sold to.

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johnriley

Link Posted 04/09/2015 - 17:16
By the time we've covered our images in logos and watermarks, it ruins the images. This is self defeating IMHO. If we don't want our photos stealing, then don't show them to anybody. And what would be the point of that?

I think the OP is probably intending to sell prints and I don't think logos on the front would prove popular.
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 05/09/2015 - 04:34
50mpCMOS wrote:
When selling any type of image (or even having it available on social media such as Facebook)... It's always best to have it watermarked in numerous locations; even going so far as to placing other photo alterations to the image to make it almost unprintable.

Cannot begin to mention how many images get borrowed and/or stolen from photographers. Once it crosses a countries borders it's next to impossible to do anything about it, without considerable legal fees.

IF selling print photographs also try to make every effort that the print photograph contains something such as ones logo on front and as much information on the back of the photograph. Even if it needs to go so far as to change one aspect of each and every photograph that is sold, and to log whom it was sold to.

I think that's the most paranoid approach to photography I've ever seen in my life.
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SteveLedger

Link Posted 05/09/2015 - 04:42
How do you plan to sell them? As digital downloads or posted prints?

Daronl

Link Posted 05/09/2015 - 08:19
I completely agree with Smeggypants; sold a few myself and had a few nicked including a front cover shot sold to a British Country sports magazine which turned up in an advert from a prestigious British artist run in an Italian Gunmakers magazine;.

However, I considered that as an advert and reference for my photos too and embedded copyright and the archived original helped me successfully win a very handy compensation claim; but that was pure luck as firstly the "stolen image" needs be seen before you can take any action.

Taking action can be horrendously expensive compared to the value of the photo or what you might get back, so that doesn't really help if the image has not had high profile exposure and publication by a well known user who could be discredited by such an action; even then they might ignore your protestations; and a copyright lawyer will cost a couple of hundred quid just to get a letter out to them.

if you put an image on the net it will get used by someone; if you only sell hard copy prints the image can still be scanned and can end up being circulated on social media, the internet etc.

So if you don't want photos to be "poached" don't get into selling photos, you practically can't control it.

Systematic digital defacing will not guarantee they are not knicked but definately guarantee they are not sold

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Smeggypants wrote:
50mpCMOS wrote:
When selling any type of image (or even having it available on social media such as Facebook)... It's always best to have it watermarked in numerous locations; even going so far as to placing other photo alterations to the image to make it almost unprintable.

Cannot begin to mention how many images get borrowed and/or stolen from photographers. Once it crosses a countries borders it's next to impossible to do anything about it, without considerable legal fees.

IF selling print photographs also try to make every effort that the print photograph contains something such as ones logo on front and as much information on the back of the photograph. Even if it needs to go so far as to change one aspect of each and every photograph that is sold, and to log whom it was sold to.

I think that's the most paranoid approach to photography I've ever seen in my life.


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AuraTodd

Link Posted 05/09/2015 - 09:44
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How do you plan to sell them? As digital downloads or posted prints?

As prints at diffrent sizes, but I don't want them stolen. I was going to compress the image's so that they would be too small to use, then send the larger versions if anyone wanted to buy one. Do you think this is a good idea?

I too have a horror of them being pinced without my permission.
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SteveLedger

Link Posted 05/09/2015 - 10:17
AuraTodd wrote:

I too have a horror of them being pinced without my permission.

I don't think anyone gives permission to have their photos pinched to they?
Yes, definitely don't post anything of a size which can make a useful print.

Sounds like you are thinking the right way

AuraTodd

Link Posted 06/09/2015 - 12:31
Where is the best place to sell photo's please?
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SteveLedger

Link Posted 06/09/2015 - 13:13
I thought you were planning on eBay and asking advise about this?

To be honest, the 'best place' is what is best for you, not someone else.
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cabstar

Link Posted 06/09/2015 - 21:51
I sell my wedding photography prints to clients through shoot proof which uses Loxley as a print provider. They also add watermarks which obviously aren't on the final printed version and allows digital downloads for a fee too. You decide how much markup you want to make. If you go down the eBay route of selling beware a lot of images for sale on there are originally stolen and are sold very cheaply.

I want people to steal my images it's a great income stream for me, unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you see it watermarks have stopped my images being stolen. I ensure my watermark does not affect the image to the viewer, I hate watermarks plastered across the centre of the image and says more about the photographer than any copyright prevention methods.
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AuraTodd

Link Posted 07/09/2015 - 09:31
cabstar wrote:
I sell my wedding photography prints to clients through shoot proof which uses Loxley as a print provider. They also add watermarks which obviously aren't on the final printed version and allows digital downloads for a fee too. You decide how much markup you want to make. If you go down the eBay route of selling beware a lot of images for sale on there are originally stolen and are sold very cheaply.

I want people to steal my images it's a great income stream for me, unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you see it watermarks have stopped my images being stolen. I ensure my watermark does not affect the image to the viewer, I hate watermarks plastered across the centre of the image and says more about the photographer than any copyright prevention methods.

Never heard of shoot proof, are they very good. have dscovered a website called fine art america link which seems to be ok. Anyone else heard of that please?
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RussV

Link Posted 07/09/2015 - 16:26
I've had some images on Fine Art America for a few months. I did it for fun and haven't sold anything so not too bothered. I've had some positive comments from other photographers on my images though. They have over 8 million for sale so the chance of even being seen is small. Add to that the mark up is relatively low. Try it if you like but don't expect too much. You can only store 25 images for free, after that a paid account is necessary.
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aliengrove

Link Posted 07/09/2015 - 23:18
If you want to sell images online, at some point they are going to get nicked. If you plaster them with ugly watermarks, you probably won't sell any. More subtle ones can be removed easily. All you can do is not post them at sizes that can make decent sized prints, though it doesn't stop websites using them. I would rather make some money and accept the fact that I will probably have some of my images used without my consent, than make my images not worth stealing and make nothing.

I haven't been successful in getting compensation from anyone (I have tried), and don't even bother trying anymore. If I lived in the UK I might. I do issue a lot of take-down notices, which are nearly always complied with. You have to take risks to succeed, and in photography, that risk is that someone somewhere is going to use an image without permission.

Selling on eBay doesn't sound a good idea to me, certainly not as a sole outlet. Ebay is not a place I imagine people go shopping for photographic prints. However, I've never tried it. Until your post I didn't actually know that you could buy prints there., though I shouldn't be surprised I guess.

I tried Fine Art America a while ago, and never sold anything. For me the most success I have had with prints has been through my website and Flickr, in about equal measure. Tagging images works. My most lucrative (in terms of price for a single print) print sales have come a non-profit website I allow to use my images for free, though this is in the niche market of aerial photographs of mountains. I also get some sales from Facebook, and some through word of mouth.

What I am trying to say is that I think before selling images online you need to both identify the market you are aiming at, and at the same time make your images easy to find online. The scatter-gun approach. It's a very competitive market; putting all your eggs in one basket is not going to work unless your work is already known.
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Last Edited by aliengrove on 07/09/2015 - 23:18
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