Samsung lenses - are they exactly the same as Pentax?


Taynuiltpixels

Link Posted 06/04/2014 - 21:57
Hi - can anyone advise on the following. Is the Samsung SA 1:4 16-45mm ED AL d67mm exactly the same as the smc PENTAX-DA 1:4 16-45mm ED AL?
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dougf8

Link Posted 06/04/2014 - 22:11
Yes, and no.

Yes they are the same, but some people think the coatings are different.
As far as I can remember I've not seen any definitive proof or any difference in the images from the two lenses.

I'm an ex GX10 and GX20 owner but only had a Pentax 16-45 but didn't get on with it. The kit lens (or my limited skill) was fine and the 16-45mm gave me nothing more.

I think the earlier kit lenses were not as good but the MKII kit lens and the WR 18-55 were better. I suspect the reputation of the 16-45 came from the MKI era. But I have no proof of such.
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Last Edited by dougf8 on 06/04/2014 - 22:16

Taynuiltpixels

Link Posted 06/04/2014 - 22:18
Thanks Doug - that's useful.
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KIT: K5iis, DAWR18-55mm,FA4.5 80-320mm, Mitsuki 5.6 400mm, M1.7 50mm, M1.4 50mm, M2.8 28mm, Miranda M2.8 28mm, M3.5 135mm, M1.4 200mm, Vivitar S13.5 70-210mm, Vivitar A 2.8 90mm macro,
Sigma150-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG HSM.

JonSchick

Link Posted 06/04/2014 - 22:38
I've owned Samsung and Pentax versions of the 16-45. I saw no difference in image quality (both quite decent and better than any version of the 18-55 I've used) and, if anything, the Samsung appeared to be slightly tighter build/less wobbly. That probably varies from one copy to the next. Depending upon price, I'd suggest the Tamron 17-50/2.8 lens instead. May not be much more expensive, but a definite step up in terms of image sharpness and faster constant aperture. The Sigma 17-70 is also a great lens which also offers a lot more flexibility compared to the 16-45.

stub

Link Posted 06/04/2014 - 23:50
Ive never owned the Samsung version but I do own a DA 16-45. I believe they are the same, but wouldn't swear on it. What I would say is that it is a superior lens than the 18-55. The main point being that it is faster at the longer end.
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dougf8

Link Posted 06/04/2014 - 23:57

ilovesaabs

Link Posted 07/04/2014 - 10:31
Only cosmetically...other than that I believe they are the same. I have the SA12-24 - I like to emphasise the Schneider Kreuznach branding myself.
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Russ

Link Posted 07/04/2014 - 13:50
I currently have the Pentax DA 16-45 and previously owned all version of the 18-55, including the Samsung. The WR was definitely the best of the 18-55's but the Samsung was better put together compared to the earlier Pentax 18-55. Feels tighter and looks better.
I was very happy with my 18-55WR, for landscapes it was great at f8-f14, just as good as the 16-45. But wide open the 16-45 woops it for sure. And surely that's why you are paying the extra. I would love the 17-70 or Sigma 17-70 F2.8-4, just for the extra versatility. But can't see it happening. You can pickup a 16-45 for a good price but the 17-70's (Pentax or Sigma) are significantly more. The Tamron 17-50 2.8 is lovely but both my copies had the focus fail on me. Only one was under warranty, the other i sold on Ebay for quite a loss. That's now put me off that lens. The SDM of the 17-70 also scares me with no warranty. The 16-45 with its screw drive is dependable.

Offertonhatter

Link Posted 07/04/2014 - 19:19
All K-mount Samsung lenses are the same as Pentax K-mount lenses, same optics, same factory. The only differences are the rubber grip, the blue ring as opposed the green and the reflection has a blue tint instead of a green tint, not that this tint makes any difference whatsoever. Oh, and when new, the Samsung branded ones were cheaper.
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Taynuiltpixels

Link Posted 08/04/2014 - 20:56
thanks everyone for answering my Q
"All you ever gotta do is be a good man one time to one woman"
(Janis Joplin)

KIT: K5iis, DAWR18-55mm,FA4.5 80-320mm, Mitsuki 5.6 400mm, M1.7 50mm, M1.4 50mm, M2.8 28mm, Miranda M2.8 28mm, M3.5 135mm, M1.4 200mm, Vivitar S13.5 70-210mm, Vivitar A 2.8 90mm macro,
Sigma150-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG HSM.
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