Revamped FA 35mm f/2 rumor


barkin

Link Posted 31/01/2019 - 16:03
stub wrote:
35mm lenses have been f1.4 from the competition for over a year now already...!!

And?
It's all a trade off, innit. Wider apperture = bigger physical size/weight, (and usually greater expense, unless you do away with e.g. AF)

Ya pays ya money...
Last Edited by barkin on 31/01/2019 - 16:04

RobL

Link Posted 31/01/2019 - 16:27
Algernon wrote:
To cap it all 35mm is a useless size on FF. Back in the film days the demand was for 28mm-xxmm zooms and 28mm or 24mm primes

28mm can be easily cropped to 35mm on FF or APS-C

I can't remember Vivitar doing a 35mm K mount prime. They did the early 42mm screw mount in 35mm.
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This is revamped smc lens which has been available for a while and means it can be made at a price you can’t moan about. Maybe other smc lenses will follow suit, and wouldn’t it be nice it the limited range was given the same treatment.
Last Edited by RobL on 31/01/2019 - 16:28

Mike-P

Link Posted 31/01/2019 - 16:34
I'm looking forward to a FA* 200mm f/4 macro then
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Last Edited by Mike-P on 31/01/2019 - 16:34

pschlute

Link Posted 31/01/2019 - 18:51
RobL wrote:

This is revamped smc lens which has been available for a while and means it can be made at a price you can’t moan about. Maybe other smc lenses will follow suit, and wouldn’t it be nice it the limited range was given the same treatment.

Well, the possibilities are endless. I think this is a great move by Pentax.

It is not claiming to be anything other than what it is. Anyone shooting film will love it too.

The Limited FA lenses would go down a storm.
Peter



My Flickr page

Tyr

Link Posted 31/01/2019 - 20:29
I wish they were revamping lenses like the DFA100WR with weather resistant construction. Same with the HD Limited lenses.

Still a great lens. Glad they are updating it to continue production.
Regards,
Dan

https://www.flickr.com/photos/honourabletyr/

JAK

Link Posted 31/01/2019 - 20:43
Tyr wrote:
I wish they were revamping lenses like the DFA100WR with weather resistant construction.

They did! That is the updated version. Clue is in the WR.

Old one:


New one:


John K
Last Edited by JAK on 31/01/2019 - 20:47

McGregNi

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 00:20
I suspect he meant to revamp that WR macro but add the newer HD and SP coatings ...?

And let's face it, having new looking lenses like this HD FA 35mm in the range, but without WR, is only going to add to the confusion! At least the older FA versions look a bit plasticy and leaky

Ill admit this new prime is tempting, even for aps-c users. Finally there's a high performing new option at a price the poorer amongst us can manage, as we don't always want to be scouring the classifieds for our decent glass. The lack of WR and silent focussing is a fair compromise to get into the game.
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Last Edited by McGregNi on 01/02/2019 - 00:31

MrB

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 00:33
Presumably Dan's post means that Ricoh-Pentax should upgrade existing lenses, including the HD Limiteds, in a similar way that they have already done with the 100 macro, as shown in John's post.

If so, I agree - all Pentax lenses should be WR.

Philip
Last Edited by MrB on 01/02/2019 - 00:36

Jonathan-Mac

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 09:19
The thing I was most surprised by is that they've kept the aperture ring. That's definitely a good thing in my book as if I were to ever get one (unlikely) I'd be able to use it on all my K-mount film cameras too.
Pentax hybrid user - Digital K3 & K200D, film 645 and 35mm SLR and Pentax (&other) lenses adapted to Fuji X digital
Fan of DA limited and old manual lenses

McGregNi

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 09:25
Yes, we've had so much of old lenses on new cameras .... Now it can be new lenses on old cameras!
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver

Tyr

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 11:16
MrB wrote:
Presumably Dan's post means that Ricoh-Pentax should upgrade existing lenses, including the HD Limiteds, in a similar way that they have already done with the 100 macro, as shown in John's post.

If so, I agree - all Pentax lenses should be WR.

Philip

Yes, sorry. Given the time of night my writing was not up to scratch. I meant that all old designs being revamped should be WR and QSF including the Limiteds.
Regards,
Dan

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Last Edited by Tyr on 01/02/2019 - 11:16

JAK

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 12:48
Algernon wrote:
I can't remember Vivitar doing a 35mm K mount prime. They did the early 42mm screw mount in 35mm.--

You might not remember it, but they did!
John K

pschlute

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 13:34
Tyr wrote:
I meant that all old designs being revamped should be WR and QSF including the Limiteds.

I think the trouble with this approach is this:

New coatings and focus grip is not much of an engineering challenge. The revamped lens can be produced immediately, and importantly sold for a reasonable price.

Once you introduce WR or QSF you are redesigning the lens. That means time and expenditure on a product, both of which may in in short supply in Pentax land. With the 35mm f2 there is no point redesigning it as there is a fast 35mm new lens already in the pipeline, which undoubtedly will sell for many multiples of the revamped FA.

For the classic LTD range I agree there may be a case for keeping the optical formula but adding more modern features like coatings, QSF and WR but the cost inevitably will go up for this.
Peter



My Flickr page

Algernon

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 13:35
JAK wrote:
Algernon wrote:
I can't remember Vivitar doing a 35mm K mount prime. They did the early 42mm screw mount in 35mm.--

You might not remember it, but they did!

I still don't remember them Non listed on ebay so not very popular as I expected...

Most boring lens test EVER!

Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 lens test (Komine made), PK mount

https://youtu.be/a5oR776pOwY

One thing I did remember There has already been a re-badged version of the Pentax lens released as the .........
Samsung D-Xenogon 35mm f2 AF Lens

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Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi
Last Edited by Algernon on 01/02/2019 - 13:51

MrB

Link Posted 01/02/2019 - 14:30
Tyr wrote:

Yes, sorry. Given the time of night my writing was not up to scratch. I meant that all old designs being revamped should be WR and QSF including the Limiteds.

+1 I'm with you there, Dan. Producing a range of DSLRs that are all WR, and even cheap WR kit lenses, while not upgrading the existing good lenses to be WR seems totally idiotic to me. I would have thought that these should sell at least as well as the Limiteds do now, and I'm sure there are many of us who are unwilling and/or unable to pay out for, and/or carry, the completely new huge lenses with huge prices, however good they might be.

Philip
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