Recovery of Stolen Items


Frogherder

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 17:26
Hi all,
Had a flyer given me today for a service offered by the UK police forces.

www.immobilise.com

It doesn't promise to get items back but it does appear (at least) to identify items if found.

Cost is free, and very easy to register your property.

regards
Bernard
by the way I have no connection to the police

Algernon

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 19:32
I wonder how they verify that you actually own say a lens
with that serial number on it? It would be an expensive
process for them to check every serial number
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi

Smeggypants

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 19:38
Looks like a private company to me.

Immobilise National Property Register
c/o Recipero Limited
The Coach House
Ryeford Road South
Kings Stanley
Gloucestershire
GL10 3HG
United Kingdom

Whose office is within his old mill

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=GL10+3HG&hl=en&ll=51.737308,-2.272716&spn=0.002874,0.006346&sll=52.570246,-0.243734&sspn=0.011281,0.025384&t=h&hnear=Ryeford,+GL10+3HG,+United+Kingdom&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.737202,-2.272798&panoid=9HvQqBnAxWJwMSbvBSFj-w&cbp=12,272.6,,0,6.31
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

Smeggypants

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 19:40
"BBC News: Immobilise receives regular news coverage on both national and regional levels:"


I have the BBC "news" channel on in the background all fay every day for at least 10 hours a day, and have done for the last 7 years.

Therefore I can confirm the above statement is untrue.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

Frogherder

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 19:56
Algi - I assume they match up a suspected stolen lens with one that has been reported stolen.

Smeggypants - I'd never heard of them before, but the flyer has been supported by Staffordshire Police, so it looks genuine. Are you suggesting otherwise? (your 1st post suggests a place I would tend to avoid, your 2nd appears to endorse)

regards
Bernard

wasleys

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 20:12
Googling produces several police endorsements such as this one.

Smeggypants

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 20:43
Frogherder wrote:
Algi - I assume they match up a suspected stolen lens with one that has been reported stolen.

Smeggypants - I'd never heard of them before, but the flyer has been supported by Staffordshire Police, so it looks genuine. Are you suggesting otherwise? (your 1st post suggests a place I would tend to avoid, your 2nd appears to endorse)

regards
Bernard

I was just looking into who they are as I'd never heard of a such a service offered by the Police and found they were a private company.

I'm not sure I'd want a list of my valuable possessions on the database of a private company.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283

Algernon

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 20:51
It is a private company and the only income they receive
is from selling some sort of security products.

It won't be long before the db is full of rubbish if
there isn't checks on what's being put up there

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Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi

johnriley

Link Posted 28/10/2012 - 21:18
I wouldn't want anyone to have a list of my possessions, private company or otherwise. Database security could not be relied upon at all.
Best regards, John

Frogherder

Link Posted 29/10/2012 - 11:31
Having taken on board all the above comments I now tend to agree that a 3rd party shouldn't be privy to my property details so I will not be making use of the site.

But it did give me an idea :-
Make a spreadsheet listing the items together with serial numbers, photograph image numbers, etc,etc and store this database entirely separately.

Not new, I agree, but would allow for providing the police and insurance companies with acurate details in the event of loss (theft/fire/etc).

regards
Bernard

johnriley

Link Posted 29/10/2012 - 11:40
I think the simplest and most effective answer is to prepare a book containg hard copy images and a description. Adding the original receipt would be a nice touch. I mean just a notebook with pictures stuck in, nothing fancy is necessary.

This has been done by prepared people for years and still seems the most effective. It's only because we think computers these days that we think about databases, which are as secure as a sieve being used to hold water.
Best regards, John

greynolds999

Link Posted 29/10/2012 - 11:55
I provide all this information to my insurance company anyway, so if anything was stolen they have a list of it (and I have it on my laptop too).
My Photobucket

fatspider

Link Posted 29/10/2012 - 18:21
Insurance companies will replace stolen items, if anything is recovered it then becomes the property of the Insurance Co. who will then dispose of it in order to recover as much as possible, unclaimed stolen property is auctioned off by the police and proceeds usually go into the Police fund, so you either get cheaper insurance or cheaper policing so is a database really needed?
My Names Alan, and I'm a lensaholic.
My PPG link
My Flckr link

Eastridge

Link Posted 30/10/2012 - 09:51
BBC News may not have covered this option but in their Click programme they did cover an alternative called belon.gs. (http://belon.gs/) They give little labels you put on your stuff that finders can scan / log on to get owner details. You can set a reward for return if you wish.

Clearly, if it's stolen ( as opposed to lost) the theif can just take the sticker off but there is a chance they would choose to return for reward (anonymously of course) rather than fence it , I guess.

You don't have to give the company any detailed info about the items.

Not sure if it will take off or not, but on the 'nothing to loose' basis we have used a few of them.
Sharon's: K-x, FA35/2, DA 18-250.Glen's: K10D, DA100 Macro, 55-300, Paragon 500, Silk Pro700 Tripod

Smeggypants

Link Posted 31/10/2012 - 05:32
Algernon wrote:
It is a private company and the only income they receive
is from selling some sort of security products.

It won't be long before the db is full of rubbish if
there isn't checks on what's being put up there

-

No Company does anything for altruistic reasons. I don't trust them at all. Like has been sensibly suggested, it's best to compile your own list of your serial numbers and other identification and keep it safe somewhere.

But best of all try and use preventative medicine.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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