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Posted 12/07/2016 - 23:30 - Helpful Comment
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If you need to print (upto) A3, the Canon Pixma iP8750 is good. I've had one for about 15 months and very pleased with the quality of the results.
Phil
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Posted 13/07/2016 - 00:16 - Helpful Comment
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Depends on your interpretation of cost effective.
When we did the sums 2 years ago, it's not cost effective to run an A3 printer when you can get an A3 print for £1.10 at DSCL (£1.15 at todays prices!). It's just not possible to match that price with home printing.
We currently run an iPF6450 24" roll printer and it only becomes cost effective at A2 or larger or with fine art papers such as Hahnemuhle etc. where an A3 print is £11 at DSCL.
The main reasons I can see for printing at home are convenience or 'being in control'. As soon as cost becomes the primary motivator as you've mentioned, outsource it unless you go large or use fine art papers a lot.
If you don't want to go through the hassles of printer ownership and want to be cost effective, don't buy a home printer!
When we did the sums 2 years ago, it's not cost effective to run an A3 printer when you can get an A3 print for £1.10 at DSCL (£1.15 at todays prices!). It's just not possible to match that price with home printing.
We currently run an iPF6450 24" roll printer and it only becomes cost effective at A2 or larger or with fine art papers such as Hahnemuhle etc. where an A3 print is £11 at DSCL.
The main reasons I can see for printing at home are convenience or 'being in control'. As soon as cost becomes the primary motivator as you've mentioned, outsource it unless you go large or use fine art papers a lot.
If you don't want to go through the hassles of printer ownership and want to be cost effective, don't buy a home printer!
Posted 13/07/2016 - 05:38
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I'm glad I read this after wasting about £10 photo paper and new ink trying to print a decent photo just to view, not expecting fine art colours etc.
Wasted a full day, got into bad form and still have no prints to show.
Around £1.50 for an A3 sounds good. The fine art papers are well affordable too.
Thanks
Wasted a full day, got into bad form and still have no prints to show.
Around £1.50 for an A3 sounds good. The fine art papers are well affordable too.
Thanks
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Posted 13/07/2016 - 09:16 - Helpful Comment
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Have a look at the HP Instant Ink deals I'm on the £1.99/month deal where you get 50 pages and ink cartridges sent whenever you run out, for printing A4 photos it's cost effective. Anything over A4 I use DSCL.
I got the Envy 5546 with 9 months free ink.
I got the Envy 5546 with 9 months free ink.
Posted 13/07/2016 - 10:48
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its got to be Epson very good printers
Dave
Dave
Posted 13/07/2016 - 13:04
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redbusa99 wrote:
can you apply different paper profiles to the HP if using lustre,matte, etc papers ?
can you apply different paper profiles to the HP if using lustre,matte, etc papers ?
It has profiles for the HP papers and then three profiles for Other Photo inkjet Papers, Other Matt Inkjet Papers and Other Glossy Inkjet Papers.
I use the HP Photo Advanced paper and get good quality prints.
Posted 13/07/2016 - 14:17 - Helpful Comment
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I've always used Epson for up to A4 printing and have been delighted with the results. Whether or not it is cost-effective depends on two factors:
1. What paper you use / where you buy it
2. What inks you use / where you buy them
For paper up to A4 I use either the Epson Premium Glossy, or some paper from a job lot I picked up on Amazon which is of German manufacture, not sure of the Brand but I got a box of 2000 sheets for about £20! It is heavyweight, twice as heavy as the Epson paper, is glossy and does the job. It's not quite as colour accurate as the Epson paper, having a slightly 'warm' tinge, but it is certainly good for A4 prints.
For ink I NEVER use the genuine Epson inks, there is simply no good reason to do so. I buy ink from ebay from a manufacturer called 'Signal Inks', this is dirt cheap and comes with refillable cartridges. It is colour accurate and every bit as good as the original ink as far as I can tell. I have some images on my wall at home that have been there for 3 or 4 years now with no colour degradation or fading. Of course, it depends on where you hang pictures, if they are in direct sunlight they will fade, no matter what ink is used.
I find the most important factor for printing, whether you 'do it yourself', or whether you use an external provider, is to set the image to the correct colour profile before printing. This will ensure the image is as accurate to the original as possible. Whether or not it looks similar to what you see on screen depends on whether your monitor is correctly calibrated, but that's a whole different topic.
So, for my printing up to A4, it is definitely cheaper and easier for me to do my own. My current printer is an Epson PX720WD, several years old, but still as good as new.
Hope there's some useful stuff here.
Regards
David
1. What paper you use / where you buy it
2. What inks you use / where you buy them
For paper up to A4 I use either the Epson Premium Glossy, or some paper from a job lot I picked up on Amazon which is of German manufacture, not sure of the Brand but I got a box of 2000 sheets for about £20! It is heavyweight, twice as heavy as the Epson paper, is glossy and does the job. It's not quite as colour accurate as the Epson paper, having a slightly 'warm' tinge, but it is certainly good for A4 prints.
For ink I NEVER use the genuine Epson inks, there is simply no good reason to do so. I buy ink from ebay from a manufacturer called 'Signal Inks', this is dirt cheap and comes with refillable cartridges. It is colour accurate and every bit as good as the original ink as far as I can tell. I have some images on my wall at home that have been there for 3 or 4 years now with no colour degradation or fading. Of course, it depends on where you hang pictures, if they are in direct sunlight they will fade, no matter what ink is used.
I find the most important factor for printing, whether you 'do it yourself', or whether you use an external provider, is to set the image to the correct colour profile before printing. This will ensure the image is as accurate to the original as possible. Whether or not it looks similar to what you see on screen depends on whether your monitor is correctly calibrated, but that's a whole different topic.
So, for my printing up to A4, it is definitely cheaper and easier for me to do my own. My current printer is an Epson PX720WD, several years old, but still as good as new.
Hope there's some useful stuff here.
Regards
David
Posted 13/07/2016 - 15:10
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The only problem I have with my (admittedly really cheap) Epson SX130 is that, as far as I can ascertain, the only paper feed available bends through nearly 90°. As a result it can't reliably handle paper heavier than about 160gsm.
SteveH!
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I prefer 'unconventional'.
But I'm willing to compromise and accept 'eccentric'.
Some people call me 'strange'.
I prefer 'unconventional'.
But I'm willing to compromise and accept 'eccentric'.
Posted 13/07/2016 - 19:16
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until my R1800 died I always used Permajet Oyster plus a couple of others of theirs,always gave excellent results. they give profile downloads for free or you can pay and they will send a swatch for you to print to return for them to give a more accurate profile than the general one, never found the need myself. when i went to an open day at their place it was all Epson printers that were being shown and used.
Posted 13/07/2016 - 19:33
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I do the same as Unlocker. Send off to DSCL. And its good enough for the judges at the camera club.
Following that I bought a colour laser printer for non photgraphic jobs. Good because I don't have the problem of inks drying and clogging. Been sat for 2 months without use, then I just printed off something yesterday morning.
Following that I bought a colour laser printer for non photgraphic jobs. Good because I don't have the problem of inks drying and clogging. Been sat for 2 months without use, then I just printed off something yesterday morning.
Posted 13/07/2016 - 23:24
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I've started using Costco and they have printed some brilliant 18" x 12" prints for me. Our A3 printer (Epson 1290) is a total pain now, and very wasteful on ink as the heads keep getting blocked. We mainly use A4 printers now, for documents and a few A4 or smaller prints.
Best regards, John
Posted 13/07/2016 - 23:47
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My preference is for Epson printers, Epson inks and Permajet papers. However, I would echo what Unlocker said above concerning the advantages of being in control and the ability to experiment versus cost effectiveness.
Posted 13/07/2016 - 23:53
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David Storm says it is important to use the correct colour profile before getting an external source to make prints for you.
Not being a 'print' person at all I don't understand this. Can someone please elaborate?
Not being a 'print' person at all I don't understand this. Can someone please elaborate?
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