Pentax Support?


Hiljon

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 13:57
Just called the Support number and bless the young lady ... she could simply not help. I asked her to recommend the equivalent of the Pocket Wizard for the K200D and 360 flash(s). All she kept of telling me was I needed the "f" remote which I obviously don't. Does ANYONE know what is out there that WILL work. I obviously don't want to short the flash/camera, so if anyone can advise if there is anything locally (UK) that can fire one or more flashes (off-camera) please let me know. tks

Adqam

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 14:04
Just checking you are aware that the built-in flash on the K200 can act as a controller in P-TTL mode?

Gwyn

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 14:49
The Pentax young lady was referring to the F adaptors and cables for OCF.

As Adqam says though you can use the built-in flash to control the flash off camera. You need to set it up correctly first but then it works a treat. Read you manual for how to do it.

MattMatic

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 15:41
The remote trigger also works with the flash in "M" and "A" modes as well

Don't forget they are optically triggered, not by radio.

I have tried some radio triggers from ebay. They did work - but only at slow shutter speeds. I know there are some forum members that have other radio triggers, and other infrared triggers as well.

And, as Pentax says, you can use the F series cables for off-camera-flash. That is Pentax's solution

Matt
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gartmore

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 15:56
I would have thought that Pentax support was precisely that, support for Pentax products, maybe 'Pocket Wizard' support would have been more worthwhile.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

Anvh

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 20:00
gartmore wrote:
I would have thought that Pentax support was precisely that, support for Pentax products, maybe 'Pocket Wizard' support would have been more worthwhile.

Calling Pocket Wizard and then asking them which other company sells the same things they do... yeah I don't think they would love to answer that.
It's like calling to Mercedes and ask them what other Germany company makes cars.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

Adqam

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 21:03
MattMatic wrote:
The remote trigger also works with the flash in "M" and "A" modes as well

Don't forget they are optically triggered, not by radio.

Please realise, however, that as your built-in flash can only operate in P-TTL mode, it will pre-flash and trigger your flash early - and it may not have enough power left for the exposure-making flash. If using your flash remotely in M or A, use an old cheap manual flash on your camera to trigger.

Anvh

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 21:10
Adqam wrote:
MattMatic wrote:
The remote trigger also works with the flash in "M" and "A" modes as well

Don't forget they are optically triggered, not by radio.

Please realise, however, that as your built-in flash can only operate in P-TTL mode, it will pre-flash and trigger your flash early - and it may not have enough power left for the exposure-making flash. If using your flash remotely in M or A, use an old cheap manual flash on your camera to trigger.

Not fully true.
What you said is true with the older flashes that only has "dumb" slave mode the newer flashes have a smart slave mode and you can pick 4 channels.
You don't need to have your flash set to P-TTL but you can also set the flash to A or M and it won't fire with the Pre-flash because of the smarter sync.

Hiljon has a Pentax 360 and that one support the smarter flash mode.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Last Edited by Anvh on 23/02/2010 - 21:12

bretti_kivi

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 21:14
... if you want hi-speed, sync optically with a high speed flash on the shoe.

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.

womble

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 21:16
Anvh wrote:
Hiljon has a Pentax 360 and that one support the smarter flash mode.

If it does I have never found out how. I use an old AF160 to trigger my AF360 in slave mode. This was the subject of just about my first post to this list! Mind you, that was with the K10D, not tried to crack this one with the K20D yet.

K.
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Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.

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Hiljon

Link Posted 23/02/2010 - 22:38
I am looking to fire flashes by radio .. not optically. I already fire optically ... so need to know what compatible triggers are out there and that work.

gartmore

Link Posted 24/02/2010 - 08:14
Hiljon wrote:
I am looking to fire flashes by radio .. not optically. I already fire optically ... so need to know what compatible triggers are out there and that work.

I have 16 channel radio triggers which came from Hong Kong via ebay, they have now been in almost daily use for 4 years and cost about £19. However, they plug into the sync lead sockets on the studio heads. This might be what you are after: link, you will also need a hot shoe adapter which only costs a couple of pounds, all for a fraction of the cost of Pocket Wizards.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

bretti_kivi

Link Posted 24/02/2010 - 10:05
... they all work. Depends on the flash head you're using to a certain extent (see Anvh's issues with a 540 and Cactus V4s), but my cactii fire d-lites and Sigma Ef500s without a problem.

Bret
my pics: link
my kit: K3, K5, K-01, DA 18-55, D-FA50 macro, Siggy 30/1.4, 100-300/f4, 70-200/2.8, Samsung 12-24/f4, Tamron 17-50, and lots of other bits.

Anvh

Link Posted 24/02/2010 - 12:42
bretti_kivi wrote:
... they all work. Depends on the flash head you're using to a certain extent (see Anvh's issues with a 540 and Cactus V4s), but my cactii fire d-lites and Sigma Ef500s without a problem.

Bret

Yep, I could refund them but I've kept them and will buy some cheap second hand flash from ebay, it's cheaper then getting a sync that does work.

The Cactus v4 do work with the Pentax AF360, the design of the syncs are good and the quality decent for the price.
There are some report of the Cactus not working but it fired my flash all the time, it never failed it just syncs to slow with the Pentax AF540, I can only use shutterspeeds slower then 1/15 of a sec
But like I said that isn't the case with the AF360 from what i've heard.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

Anvh

Link Posted 25/02/2010 - 11:05
womble wrote:
Anvh wrote:
Hiljon has a Pentax 360 and that one support the smarter flash mode.

If it does I have never found out how. I use an old AF160 to trigger my AF360 in slave mode. This was the subject of just about my first post to this list! Mind you, that was with the K10D, not tried to crack this one with the K20D yet.

K.

Most of the time it's the problem is that the channel isn't set on the same number.
The best way to sync your flash with the camera is to put the flash on your camera turn them both on and then in the camera Fn menu select the wireless flash, in the top screen the channel number appears and that's the same one that's on the flash now you can change that number by change it on the flash and the camera automaticly follows.

Is that understandable or do you really want a step for step list?

Does this solve the problem, this should make it to work if you set the flashgun on wireless as well.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
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