Pentax AF360FGZ Auto-Flash: shedding light on wireless flash (and other dark corners of the manual)


Cdn_Sailor

Link Posted 25/02/2018 - 20:57
I'm aware that this thread is a bit old, but for those who use or updated to the K-70. It is the only way to get the AF-360FGZ & AF-540FGZ along with possibly the version II of these flashes to work wirelessly. This is necessary after Pentax dropped the internal camera wireless control option for these flashes with the on-board flash as the Master as was available from the K-R to KS-2

I did find that the flash when setup in this mode will fire on both Slave Channels and the zoom can be Manually adjusted. I also found that the my AF-360FGZ defaulted to an ISO setting of 100 and I haven't figured out or if it is possible to match the ISO setting to the camera.
Practitioner of the art of capturing and preserving for all to see "brief moments in time"
Gear: Cameras - K70, K100D, MZ60, K1000. Lenses - Pentax DA 16-45 f:4, DA 18-55 f:3.5-5.6, DA 18-135 f:3.5-5.6WR, FA 28-90 f:35-5.6, FAJ 75-300 f:4.5-5.8, DA 50 f:1.8, A-50 1:2, M-50 1:2. Sigma 10-20 f:4-5.6 EXDC, 35-70 f:3.5-4.5, 50-500 f:4-6.3 EX. LensBaby Composer Pro Sweet 35 f:2.5, Accessories AF-360FGZ, AF-360FGZII, O-GPS1, Ketnor Digital Super Wide 0.42X AF Lens

McGregNi

Link Posted 25/02/2018 - 21:16
The K70 is one of a few recent camera models without Wireless capabilities. However there are other recent ones that do have it. In my Supplement document to my "Pentax Flash Guide" there is a table listing every camera back as far as the K100/d with the on board flash features provided. The Supplement is downloadable via the link in my Signature below.

The wireless features of the MkII flash models are the same as the older ones .... It is only some camera models that have lost the wireless mode.

The flash ISO setting relates to Auto flash mode, and as far as I'm aware there is no settings information exchanged between flash and camera in that mode. The camera aperture and ISO settings are completely independent of the flash ones ....indeed you must take advantage of this situation in order to gain control over the flash exposure level that is recorded.
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 25/02/2018 - 21:31

Cdn_Sailor

Link Posted 26/02/2018 - 17:43
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In my Supplement document to my "Pentax Flash Guide" there is a table listing every camera back as far as the K100/d with the on board flash features provided.

It's odd you mention that the K100D had the wireless flash control option because my K100D (purchased in 2007) with up to date firmware didn't have or gain that option. Maybe the option was on the upgraded K100D Super which was released just prior to or around the the same time as the Flash . I can also cause the flash to fire with K100D internal falsh using the same setup as I use for the K70. I know my K-r did have wireless flash control as I used it regularly with my AF-360FGZ.
Practitioner of the art of capturing and preserving for all to see "brief moments in time"
Gear: Cameras - K70, K100D, MZ60, K1000. Lenses - Pentax DA 16-45 f:4, DA 18-55 f:3.5-5.6, DA 18-135 f:3.5-5.6WR, FA 28-90 f:35-5.6, FAJ 75-300 f:4.5-5.8, DA 50 f:1.8, A-50 1:2, M-50 1:2. Sigma 10-20 f:4-5.6 EXDC, 35-70 f:3.5-4.5, 50-500 f:4-6.3 EX. LensBaby Composer Pro Sweet 35 f:2.5, Accessories AF-360FGZ, AF-360FGZII, O-GPS1, Ketnor Digital Super Wide 0.42X AF Lens

McGregNi

Link Posted 26/02/2018 - 20:52
HI, I double checked and the Supplement does include both the K100/d and Super models within the ďNot WirelessĒ category. Also the K110d. I looked through the User Manuals for every model to be sure when researching this.

I was surprised that only a very small number of cameras donít have the wireless feature, and the K70 recently was perhaps the biggest surprise. Itís something that could easily be missed when choosing a new body, and then regretted later when itís needed.

As it would seem to be a software type of function, not different hardware, itís difficult to believe there is much cost associated with it .....therfore I concluded that it was probably a marketing / range positioning sort of decision, another reason for people to choose an upgrade down the line ....?
My Guides to the Pentax Digital Camera Flash Lighting System : Download here from the PentaxForums Homepage Article .... link
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Last Edited by McGregNi on 26/02/2018 - 20:55

Cdn_Sailor

Link Posted 28/02/2018 - 14:46
I agree I was a little surprised when the K70 didn't have wireless flash control other than as an Optical Slave. I guess they had to sacrifice the flash RF transceiver chip on the motherboard for the Wi-Fi Transceiver chip like they sacrificed the popup flash for GPS on the K3II and K1.

I guess for the amount of time I use the flash "Off Camera" I can get away with using it as an Optical Slave. If however I want the option back and regain P-TTL I will have to bite the bullet and invest in either a new AF-360 or 540FGZ II or a third party flash that my current AF-360FGZ can be slaved to and remain fully functional.

Do you know of any 3rd party flash that will fill that role or would I be better off moving to a trigger like the Cactus V6 or V6II.
My reason for asking is that many Canadian Retailers no longer carry Pentax branded products and it may be easier to acquire a third party flash with a little less risk and more local support
Practitioner of the art of capturing and preserving for all to see "brief moments in time"
Gear: Cameras - K70, K100D, MZ60, K1000. Lenses - Pentax DA 16-45 f:4, DA 18-55 f:3.5-5.6, DA 18-135 f:3.5-5.6WR, FA 28-90 f:35-5.6, FAJ 75-300 f:4.5-5.8, DA 50 f:1.8, A-50 1:2, M-50 1:2. Sigma 10-20 f:4-5.6 EXDC, 35-70 f:3.5-4.5, 50-500 f:4-6.3 EX. LensBaby Composer Pro Sweet 35 f:2.5, Accessories AF-360FGZ, AF-360FGZII, O-GPS1, Ketnor Digital Super Wide 0.42X AF Lens
Last Edited by Cdn_Sailor on 28/02/2018 - 14:49
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